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  • kemasa
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2005
    • 10706

    Originally posted by jonzer77
    By default? Is this some sort of unwritten rule?
    Yes, by default. Unless the seller agrees to a possible refund, there are no refunds. If you think otherwise, please show me where a private sale is subject to a refund and that should be in writing.

    Before you buy, know the return and exchange policy. Most retail stores allow you to return things you buy within a reasonable time for a full refund, credit, or an exchange. When a store clearly displays a limited or no-refund policy, however, refunds and exchanges are not required by law. So don’t assume a store will allow you to return an item if you change your mind. Check the store’s return policy before you buy. Many retailers display their return policies at the cash register or the customer service department. If you don’t see the policy, ask.


    Sellers are not required by law to accept returned items unless they are defective.
    Since the seller in this case is a private party, the no refund notification would not be required.

    In other words why would you think that you have a right to a refund for a private sale unless the seller committed fraud?
    Kemasa.
    False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

    Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

    Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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    • jonzer77
      • Jul 2010
      • 8525

      Originally posted by kemasa
      Yes, by default. Unless the seller agrees to a possible refund, there are no refunds. If you think otherwise, please show me where a private sale is subject to a refund and that should be in writing.

      Before you buy, know the return and exchange policy. Most retail stores allow you to return things you buy within a reasonable time for a full refund, credit, or an exchange. When a store clearly displays a limited or no-refund policy, however, refunds and exchanges are not required by law. So don’t assume a store will allow you to return an item if you change your mind. Check the store’s return policy before you buy. Many retailers display their return policies at the cash register or the customer service department. If you don’t see the policy, ask.




      Since the seller in this case is a private party, the no refund notification would not be required.

      In other words why would you think that you have a right to a refund for a private sale unless the seller committed fraud?
      Originally posted by barrage
      That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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      • SonofWWIIDI
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2011
        • 21583

        Hey Travis,

        Can I borrow $500 bucks?!?!

        Sorry, not sorry.
        🎺

        Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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        • kemasa
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2005
          • 10706

          Originally posted by jonzer77
          In other words you don't have a leg to stand on, but you are going to refuse to admit that you are wrong about being entitled to a refund, which is pretty funny.

          Go buy something from a private party and try to demand a refund, then sue in small claims court that the seller did not give you a refund and see how far you get.

          Kemasa.
          False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

          Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

          Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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          • jonzer77
            • Jul 2010
            • 8525

            Question on a failed background check **update post 136**

            Originally posted by kemasa
            In other words you don't have a leg to stand on, but you are going to refuse to admit that you are wrong about being entitled to a refund, which is pretty funny.

            Go buy something from a private party and try to demand a refund, then sue in small claims court that the seller did not give you a refund and see how far you get.



            Originally posted by barrage
            That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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            • iron cannon
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 1109

              Originally posted by kemasa
              In other words you don't have a leg to stand on, but you are going to refuse to admit that you are wrong about being entitled to a refund, which is pretty funny.

              Go buy something from a private party and try to demand a refund, then sue in small claims court that the seller did not give you a refund and see how far you get.

              Your signature is very telling.

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              • kemasa
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jun 2005
                • 10706

                Originally posted by jonzer77


                Yep, I should not try to teach this pig to sing.

                Enough sense to not try to say anything, but not enough sense to not reply with a stupid response.
                Kemasa.
                False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                • jonzer77
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 8525

                  Originally posted by kemasa
                  Yep, I should not try to teach this pig to sing.

                  Enough sense to not try to say anything, but not enough sense to not reply with a stupid response.




                  Originally posted by barrage
                  That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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                  • iron cannon
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 1109

                    Originally posted by kemasa
                    Yep, I should not try to teach this pig to sing.

                    Enough sense to not try to say anything, but not enough sense to not reply with a stupid response.
                    That was funny , but thats not what I meant .
                    You do some kind of business with firearms .. no?, but you don't even seem grasp the basics of trading?

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                    • Travis590A1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 5233

                      Originally posted by lakersandguns
                      Is this the the guy who fail the ppt Travis. Your a dick if you agree to a straw purchase with this guy.


                      Check out OP and post 65 from rifle gear rep
                      rifle gear denies my mother from owning a shotgun

                      Travis wts/wtt mossberg 590a1 thread





                      Little suspect if you ask me
                      I sold that shotgun a while ago, at a gun shop NOT via craigslist lol. All the potential buyers on here flaked.





                      Originally posted by SonofWWIIDI
                      Hey Travis,

                      Can I borrow $500 bucks?!?!

                      You gotta earn it!

                      Sent from FighterPilot's basement

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                      • Remus
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 435

                        Fact or fiction in this case - I know several people that would fail a background check due to a felony conviction in their late teens (along the lines of a DUI that caused someone serious injury). Neither would intentionally cause someone harm (now or then) but they do have to live with their mistakes (until they can get their records expunged).

                        I'd say it is improper to stiff a guy on return of the money just because of a failed DROS. Now if he called me up and asked me to file off the serial numbers... I'd inform him his money would be waiting for him at the local PD.

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                        • jonzer77
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 8525

                          Originally posted by Remus
                          Fact or fiction in this case - I know several people that would fail a background check due to a felony conviction in their late teens (along the lines of a DUI that caused someone serious injury). Neither would intentionally cause someone harm (now or then) but they do have to live with their mistakes (until they can get their records expunged).

                          I'd say it is improper to stiff a guy on return of the money just because of a failed DROS. Now if he called me up and asked me to file off the serial numbers... I'd inform him his money would be waiting for him at the local PD.
                          It's a Travis thread so it's all false........no one actually believes a single thing that comes out of his keyboard
                          Originally posted by barrage
                          That's because Excelsior threads are like toilet bowls. They're made for crapping in and occasionally pissing on the side of.

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                          • kemasa
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 10706

                            Originally posted by iron cannon
                            That was funny , but thats not what I meant .
                            You do some kind of business with firearms .. no?, but you don't even seem grasp the basics of trading?
                            I understand the basics of sales, perhaps more than you do if you think that you automatically deserve a refund if the seller did not commit fraud. A private sales is considered as-is and there are no automatic refunds.

                            Until the seller sells the firearm again, there can be no refund unless he feels kind since there is no idea of what the loss will be due to the buyer not being able to complete the transfer, for reasons that he was aware of in advance and due to that, he wasted the seller's time and money.
                            Kemasa.
                            False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                            Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                            Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                            • Artema
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 3821

                              Originally posted by kemasa
                              I understand the basics of sales, perhaps more than you do if you think that you automatically deserve a refund if the seller did not commit fraud. A private sales is considered as-is and there are no automatic refunds.

                              Until the seller sells the firearm again, there can be no refund unless he feels kind since there is no idea of what the loss will be due to the buyer not being able to complete the transfer, for reasons that he was aware of in advance and due to that, he wasted the seller's time and money.
                              Agreed.
                              - SAAMI Pressure Specs
                              Originally posted by Artema
                              I'd go to the grocery store with polymer, and I'd go to war with steel.

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                              • ebencikiv
                                Veteran Member
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 4527

                                Hey look everyone another Travis drama thread. Some things never change.

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