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Old 10-04-2013, 5:38 PM
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Need some advice. My mother took upon herself to purchase a shotgun for home defense. She completed the sale online with Impactguns and had it shipped to Riflegear for the transfer. The weapon arrived and she went to Riflegear and paid $75 for the transfer, 55 for the back round check and 25 for the DROS which she promptly paid. She was told to return the next after the back round was cleared to fill out the paperwork for the DROS. When she returned she was told the gun would not be sold to her because to a new bill that she was not able to handle the gun they wouldn't sell it to her. Now I honestly in my heart believe there is nothing on this earth that would be able to stop my mother when she is riled. Let alone a shotgun of all things. Some of the best shooters I've seen were women. So they told her they are going to ship the shotgun back gave her the 25 and 55 but kept the 75 even though she is the one that paid the shipping charges. You'll have to excuse me I get pretty upset when people mess with my mother. So now I ask can they do this? What right does the guy behind the counter determine if someone is capable of handling a weapon? What the hell is happening to the country? We will soon be past the point of no return. God help us all.
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There is no new bill, this story makes no sense. You don't have all the information.
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Maybe she was denied and thats why they kept the $75? Did she mention that? I don't think they would have denied her any other way, unless they suspected a "straw purchase".
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There is definitely some missing information here.
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You should ask in riflegear's sub forum here.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=132
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OP, You should delete your post before a representative from Riflegear comes on and makes a fool of you. Just sayin.

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OP, You should delete your post before a representative from Riflegear comes on and makes a fool of you. Just sayin.

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Something doesn't add up. Why does she have to pay $55 for a background check. I thought all one needed to do was DROS the gun and pay the DROS fee?

If she wants a shotgun, just go get one at Big 5 when they have a sale.

Tell her to look for sales and coupons. She'll like that.

If you want answers here, you'll have to get the whole story. Sounds more like her DROS was denied as there is no competency test or gun handling test for long guns. Even if you buy a handgun, they'll show you right there and then how to use it properly. Maybe she said she was buying it for someone else. That right there would cause an FFL to stop the sale as it puts their license at risk.

There is a bill, SB-683, in the works that will require a gun safety card for long guns, but that bill has not yet been signed and won't be in affect for some time even if it is signed. http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...201320140SB683 (Sorry, can't get the link to work, just enter SB-683 in the upper right hand corner of the linked page.)

About the only advice I can think of at this point, is grab mommy by the hand and go talk to the boys at Riflegear. They are one of the best respected gun shops in our area. I doubt that they are jerking her chain. There's got to be a good explanation.
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Was the shotgun a 590 Mossberg like the one your looking for?

Why did they take her money, yet have her come back the next day to fill out her paperwork?
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What background check??? Did they suspect a straw purchase for the OP I wonder....,???
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Any or all of the following may apply:

1) Misinformed.

2) BS for kicks - i.e., trolling.

3) Bored shill.

4) NeoSocialist Libtard Shill.

5) Disgruntled Riflegear customer for some unrleated reason telling tall tales.

6) She is prohbited from buying a firearm.
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What background check???
That's what I was wondering. I've never heard of a 55.00 charge for a background check to buy a firearm. Unless OP meant the NICS check. I have never heard of anyone charging a fee for NICS.
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^^^ I suspect they suspected straw.
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Yeah, something's not right. Either you're not telling the whole story, your mother isn't telling the whole story, or she misunderstood and didn't relay they story back to you correctly. It does seem possible that the store suspected that the shotgun might be a straw purchase.

I also think it's an interesting coincidence that your two first posts on CalGuns were posts about buying a shotgun. If your mother was buying the shotgun for you, that is illegal. Just to make it clear, we at CalGuns do not advocate breaking the law.

Instead of airing your upset about the situation here, perhaps it would have been better to phone Riflegear to inquire about what happened?

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That's what I was wondering. I've never heard of a 55.00 charge for a background check to buy a firearm. Unless OP meant the NICS check. I have never heard of anyone charging a fee for NICS.
The NICS check is part of the DROS process. I think this is a very uninformed troll.....
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The numbers and time line sort of add up for an out of state or FFL transfer. They seem to stated incorrectly.

One of the charges may have been the BOE tax.

Catchy thread title though.
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Need some advice. My mother took upon herself to purchase a shotgun for home defense. She completed the sale online with Impactguns and had it shipped to Riflegear for the transfer. The weapon arrived and she went to Riflegear and paid $75 for the transfer, 55 for the back round check and 25 for the DROS which she promptly paid. She was told to return the next after the back round was cleared to fill out the paperwork for the DROS. When she returned she was told the gun would not be sold to her because to a new bill that she was not able to handle the gun they wouldn't sell it to her. Now I honestly in my heart believe there is nothing on this earth that would be able to stop my mother when she is riled. Let alone a shotgun of all things. Some of the best shooters I've seen were women. So they told her they are going to ship the shotgun back gave her the 25 and 55 but kept the 75 even though she is the one that paid the shipping charges. You'll have to excuse me I get pretty upset when people mess with my mother. So now I ask can they do this? What right does the guy behind the counter determine if someone is capable of handling a weapon? What the hell is happening to the country? We will soon be past the point of no return. God help us all.

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Let's see....

1. Riflegear is a well-regarded aggressive FFL w/few complaints and lotsa high-fives etc.

2. Riflegear is a business in business to do business making money.

FOR SOME REASON THEY MADE A SPECIFIC DECISION NOT TO MAKE MONEY.

Telling, huh?


I suspect the OP was prohibited/doing a wanky transfer (and/or the mother was prohibited person?)
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Need some advice. My mother took upon herself to purchase a shotgun for home defense. She completed the sale online with Impactguns and had it shipped to Riflegear for the transfer. The weapon arrived and she went to Riflegear and paid $75 for the transfer, 55 for the back round check and 25 for the DROS which she promptly paid. She was told to return the next after the back round was cleared to fill out the paperwork for the DROS. When she returned she was told the gun would not be sold to her because to a new bill that she was not able to handle the gun they wouldn't sell it to her. Now I honestly in my heart believe there is nothing on this earth that would be able to stop my mother when she is riled. Let alone a shotgun of all things. Some of the best shooters I've seen were women. So they told her they are going to ship the shotgun back gave her the 25 and 55 but kept the 75 even though she is the one that paid the shipping charges. You'll have to excuse me I get pretty upset when people mess with my mother. So now I ask can they do this? What right does the guy behind the counter determine if someone is capable of handling a weapon? What the hell is happening to the country? We will soon be past the point of no return. God help us all.

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Waiting for RifleGear to blast the OP...
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This is does not pass the smell test...
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In before Shark gets here and sets this story straight. This thread has epic potential and it's a welcome distraction from all the pending legislation.

For what it's worth, I've been in Riflegear dozens of times (including this morning) and they've been more than happy to take my money each time.
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Lemme guess, she wasn't Asian and she was ex-military, these people are hated by Riflegear!!! Hate, I tell you.

OP has to be fastkevin.... dude, you can't just let it go, can you?
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Need some advice. My mother took upon herself to purchase a shotgun for home defense. She completed the sale online with Impactguns and had it shipped to Riflegear for the transfer. The weapon arrived and she went to Riflegear and paid $75 for the transfer, 55 for the back round check and 25 for the DROS which she promptly paid. She was told to return the next after the back round was cleared to fill out the paperwork for the DROS. When she returned she was told the gun would not be sold to her because to a new bill that she was not able to handle the gun they wouldn't sell it to her. Now I honestly in my heart believe there is nothing on this earth that would be able to stop my mother when she is riled. Let alone a shotgun of all things. Some of the best shooters I've seen were women. So they told her they are going to ship the shotgun back gave her the 25 and 55 but kept the 75 even though she is the one that paid the shipping charges. You'll have to excuse me I get pretty upset when people mess with my mother. So now I ask can they do this? What right does the guy behind the counter determine if someone is capable of handling a weapon? What the hell is happening to the country? We will soon be past the point of no return. God help us all.
Come on back, I want to hear the rest of the story.....

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Hahahahahah -

My momma needs to be like special orderin a shotty yo....



Either you got busted trying to have your mom commit a felony -

Or you're a liar.

Either way its a douche bag move.

Go hump legs on another forum Mr 3rd post....
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Lemme guess, she wasn't Asian and she was ex-military, these people are hated by Riflegear!!! Hate, I tell you.

OP has to be fastkevin.... dude, you can't just let it go, can you?
Wait... RifleGear dissed fastkevins Mom too?!?! Do these guys have no shame?

I think the $75 was a caucasian tax.
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OR - Momma has the shotgun stashed away somewhere -

And lied to her deadbeat pathetic thug wannabe kid....
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To get the ball rolling, I just contacted RifleGear about this thread. LET THE FUN TIMES BEGIN, shortly :-)
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