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  • #46
    Vertigofirearms
    Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 430

    Originally posted by joefrank64k
    Yikes, what happened to doing the right thing simply because it's the right thing to do?
    I concur.
    Originally posted by SBCZILLA (ARFCOM)
    Its a ****in tube, one end capped, one end threaded. Dont over think it.

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    • #47
      Warhawk014
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 1498

      wow. just wow.
      http://www.shop42a.com/

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      • #48
        atv
        Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 163

        You got to be kidding about him waiting to pay 2x to file over the serial.

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        • #49
          Travis590A1
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2011
          • 5233

          Originally posted by Bill Carson
          So instead of trying to sell it here or on another gunsite or sell to a LGS or have a LGS sell it for you on consignment you went to Craigslist?
          I've tried to sell guns on here, everyone interested is always very far. Local gun shops charge insane percentages. Also to clear it up. I didn't advertise a gun for sale on craigslist, I had some 9mm ammo for sale on CL and this guy called me and asked if I had a 9mm pistol for sale because in the at I posted "I'm getting rid of all my gun stuff"

          Sent from FighterPilot's basement

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          • #50
            JDay
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 19393

            Under state law the gun is to be released to you. You also owe the guy a refund unless you had an agreement otherwise.

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            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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            • #51
              JDay
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Nov 2008
              • 19393

              If he got a copy of the DROS you address is supposed to be blacked out. However you very well could be committing felony theft if you do not refund his money since you had no agreement about not refunding in the event he didn't pass the DROS.

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              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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              • #52
                Brianguy
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3836

                I vote deduct gas + modest fee for wasting your time and refund the rest. How about reporting him wanting you to file the serial to PD? Maybe they can setup some kind of sting on this guy. Perhaps it will be enough GC for a LTC.
                Last edited by Brianguy; 10-20-2013, 4:19 AM.

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                • #53
                  kemasa
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 10706

                  Originally posted by JDay
                  You also owe the guy a refund unless you had an agreement otherwise.
                  Perhaps, but if he sells the firearm and he gets less, he does not owe the buyer a full refund. Any additional expenses would also come off the refund. There was no agreement that he would get a refund if the transfer failed.

                  Also, please show me the law which says that in lack of a written statement to the contrary that a refund is required. There is no law that I am aware of in which demands a refund. The seller can consign the firearm at a shop and when it sells, the buyer can get a refund.

                  The bottom line is that a known problem for the buyer does not mean it is all on the seller. The fact that the buyer violated the law also is a problem.
                  Last edited by kemasa; 10-20-2013, 9:35 AM.
                  Kemasa.
                  False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse.

                  Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong.

                  Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein

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                  • #54
                    evidens83
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 7839

                    The real question is is that OP Travis actually owns firearms??? Wha??? lol
                    WTS 10/22 Lasermax laser CHEAP!!!

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                    • #55
                      lakersandguns
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 5814

                      Got tired of posting your bs on off topic I see Travis

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                      • #56
                        2DoorImpala
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 4698

                        I voted this never happened

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                        • #57
                          lakersandguns
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 5814

                          Originally posted by 2DoorImpala
                          I voted this never happened
                          This

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                          • #58
                            nickel plate
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2106

                            Originally posted by teg33
                            So what against craiglist rule. Craiglist rule/policy is NOT the LAW.
                            By sneaking in the back door past the craigslist rules gets you a proven hook up with a felon. Craigslist rule/policy is NOT the LAW so teg, would you attempt that method of selling?

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                            • #59
                              nickel plate
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 2106

                              Originally posted by Zedrek
                              Driving 72 MPH in a 70 MPH zone is against the law but how many times have you done it?

                              They also say that you can't sell household animals such as dogs or cats but people still do. A "re-homing" fee is about as stupid as giving 50 "roses" for a good time in the casual encounters area.
                              Same question for you Zedrek, would you post on craigslist as Travis did?

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                              • #60
                                Zedrek
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1812

                                Originally posted by nickel plate
                                Same question for you Zedrek, would you post on craigslist as Travis did?
                                Yes, I also don't have a problem with using Paypal for firearm payments. Like I said, it's perfectly legal to purchase or sell a firearm to someone no matter which way it transpires as long as you are going through a FFL. Also, if you read what Travis said he wrote that he didn't post a firearm for sale. The guy was buying ammo and asked if he had a 9mm handgun to sell. I can call Walmart and transfer to electronics and ask the guy if he has a personally owned gun for sale and then go to an FFL and conduct the transfer. Completely legal!
                                sigpic10mm collector

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