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  • xmattedgex
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 413

    11 day wait period?!

    New local store opened up and they make you wait 11 days!!! Is that legal? I feel like if you've already paid for the firearm, exactly 240 hours from purchase it is now yours. I also feel like CA has strict enough gun laws and 10 days is more than a long enough wait. Kinda weird that our own people are pushing wait period out even further than CA makes them. Seems ridiculous. I know it's only one extra day, but I sure won't be purchasing from there.
  • #2
    Milsurps
    Senior Member
    • May 2010
    • 2232

    Originally posted by xmattedgex
    I know it's only one extra day, but I sure won't be purchasing from there.
    Yes it's legal. It's also a question here.

    You answered your own question nicely.
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    • #3
      fizux
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      • Apr 2012
      • 1540

      It seems pretty common with dealers around here - allegedly it makes the DOJ surprise inspections easier if they don't spend a bunch of time arguing and counting out 240 hours for each pickup made exactly 10 days later. (yes, we know the time is printed right on the DROS form)

      My last "day 11" pushed me into the Sunday (closed) before Memorial Day (also closed), so I had a 13 day wait as a result of DOJ's irrationally aggressive enforcement of a ridiculous statute.

      The illicit dealers seem not to tack on the extra day. By 240 hours, they don't even remember who they sold it to.

      But see this article:
      Nationwide Master List of Current 2A Cases, courtesy of Al Norris @ TFL.

      Reloading Clubs: SF, East Bay

      Case Status: (Handgun Roster). SF v. 44Mag (Mag Parts Kits). Bauer v. Harris (DROS Fees). Davis v. LA (CCW policy). Jackson v. SF (Ammo/Storage). Teixeira (FFL Zoning). First Unitarian v. NSA (Privacy). Silvester (Waiting Period). Schoepf (DROS Delay). Haynie (AW ban). SFVPOA v. SF (10+ mag possession ban). Bear in Public: Drake (3CA); Moore (7CA); Richards, Peruta, McKay (9CA).

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      • #4
        xmattedgex
        Member
        • May 2011
        • 413

        Thanks guys, I had never heard of this before. Every store I had been into follows the 10 days. So I was pretty shocked wen this place told me 11.

        And on that article- when is that being heard? Or has it been?

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        • #5
          Zartan
          In Memoriam
          • Nov 2010
          • 6269

          What shop is this?

          I've been told you can pick it up this day at "anytime". Yea, cuz I waited an extra day! Other shops have said "you can pick it up anytime after such and such time" I remember I picked up my S12 from Valkyrie and we stood there until 3:12pm on the 10th day bsing, and when the clock struck, he said, cool, have a good day.
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          • #6
            xmattedgex
            Member
            • May 2011
            • 413

            Originally posted by MHShooter
            What shop is this?

            I've been told you can pick it up this day at "anytime". Yea, cuz I waited an extra day! Other shops have said "you can pick it up anytime after such and such time" I remember I picked up my S12 from Valkyrie and we stood there until 3:12pm on the 10th day bsing, and when the clock struck, he said, cool, have a good day.
            Steelwater Firearms in Temecula. I did the same thing at faith. Just hung out till the minute it hit 240 hours. Basically SW makes you wait 264 hours instead of 240.

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            • #7
              fizux
              Senior Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2012
              • 1540

              Originally posted by xmattedgex
              And on that article- when is that being heard? Or has it been?
              "Two weeks."
              In reality, they take forever. Cross-motions for summary judgment, followed by appeals to the Cal. S.Ct. (or maybe SCOTUS), stays for Nordyke XLVI, et cetera.
              Nationwide Master List of Current 2A Cases, courtesy of Al Norris @ TFL.

              Reloading Clubs: SF, East Bay

              Case Status: (Handgun Roster). SF v. 44Mag (Mag Parts Kits). Bauer v. Harris (DROS Fees). Davis v. LA (CCW policy). Jackson v. SF (Ammo/Storage). Teixeira (FFL Zoning). First Unitarian v. NSA (Privacy). Silvester (Waiting Period). Schoepf (DROS Delay). Haynie (AW ban). SFVPOA v. SF (10+ mag possession ban). Bear in Public: Drake (3CA); Moore (7CA); Richards, Peruta, McKay (9CA).

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              • #8
                xmattedgex
                Member
                • May 2011
                • 413

                Originally posted by fizux
                "Two weeks."
                In reality, they take forever. Cross-motions for summary judgment, followed by appeals to the Cal. S.Ct. (or maybe SCOTUS), stays for Nordyke XLVI, et cetera.
                Well, At least something is being done. Very cool. We can only hope for the best.

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                • #9
                  Hopalong
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2436

                  Patience, grasshopper.

                  Don't sweat the small stuff

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                  • #10
                    xmattedgex
                    Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 413

                    Originally posted by Hopalong
                    Patience, grasshopper.

                    Don't sweat the small stuff
                    When it comes to waiting for my new toy, my patience goes flyin' out the window!! Haha!

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                    • #11
                      Vacaville
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 4360

                      Big 5 always makes you wait 11 days too. It makes it easier on lame clerks who apparently aren't intelligent enough to look at a clock.

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                      • #12
                        Capybara
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                        • Feb 2012
                        • 15426

                        Yep, just picked up my 1942 MOSIN, an ancient bolt action antique, from Big 5, on day 11. Doesn't it seem ridiculous that I can sell my Mosin to you, cash and carry, yet when I go to the place that is going to do it officially, I have to wait 11 days? Just another systematic harassment from our overlords up north.
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                        • #13
                          daybreak
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 1735

                          I would still shop somewhere that made you pick up on day 11. I have other guns meanwhile. It is annoying, but if the shop is great otherwise then oh well.

                          Guns Direct in Burbank let me countdown in the store to the very second my 240 hours were up and let me be on my way. Cool dudes.

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                          • #14
                            CaliforniaLiberal
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                            • Jan 2008
                            • 4690

                            Originally posted by xmattedgex
                            New local store opened up and they make you wait 11 days!!! Is that legal? I feel like if you've already paid for the firearm, exactly 240 hours from purchase it is now yours. I also feel like CA has strict enough gun laws and 10 days is more than a long enough wait. Kinda weird that our own people are pushing wait period out even further than CA makes them. Seems ridiculous. I know it's only one extra day, but I sure won't be purchasing from there.
                            Get over it.

                            Many dozens of threads starting with this question. People get crazy over this. One guy claimed it was legal for him to break into Big 5 because they were illegally keeping his gun.

                            11 day waiting period ensures that the gun dealer won't accidentally release the gun too early and have the ATF and the CA DOJ coming down hard, shutting down his business and putting him in jail.

                            Just take note of the pick up time when you buy the gun so you're not surprised.

                            And don't pet the sweaty stuff.
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                            CA Bill Search - https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov
                            California Rifle and Pistol Association - http://crpa.org/
                            Sacramento County Sheriff Concealed Carry Info - Search 'Concealed Weapons Permit Information Sacramento'
                            Second Amendment Foundation - http://www.saf.org
                            Animated US Map Showing Progress of Concealed Carry Laws 1986 to 2021 http://www.gun-nuttery.com/rtc.php

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                            • #15
                              MrExel17
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                              • Feb 2011
                              • 9170

                              Originally posted by xmattedgex
                              When it comes to waiting for my new toy, my patience goes flyin' out the window!! Haha!
                              I'm with you bro, but you can only do so much. There store the policies. After a couple of long guns and pistol you "kinda" get used to it. Take the 11 days to buy ammo, accessories, etc...Congrats BTW
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