Another "Turners SUCKS" thread

[pullnshoot25]

I had some time to kill on Wednesday before class so I went into Turners San Mucus to check out a .44 Mag Taurus Tracker for when I turn 21 and the guy at the gun counter wouldn't let me handle it because I am not 21 yet. I left in an unrevealing pissed off way and went to class.

Today though, I went over to Duncan's Gunworks after class to pick up a shotgun I had fixed and the guys there were totally friendly, let me handle the guns and check out how they felt... you know, what ALL gun stores should be doing but some obviously don't follow that mentality.

Needless to say, I am not going to shop at Turner's again unless Turner himself puts a gun to my head. Screw that place.

Off to bed for me.

-N8

[DedEye]

I had some time to kill on Wednesday before class so I went into Turners San Mucus to check out a .44 Mag Taurus Tracker for when I turn 21 and the guy at the gun counter wouldn't let me handle it because I am not 21 yet. I left in an unrevealing pissed off way and went to class.

Today though, I went over to Duncan's Gunworks after class to pick up a shotgun I had fixed and the guys there were totally friendly, let me handle the guns and check out how they felt... you know, what ALL gun stores should be doing but some obviously don't follow that mentality.

Needless to say, I am not going to shop at Turner's again unless Turner himself puts a gun to my head. Screw that place.

Off to bed for me.

-N8

I think it's the law actually. I've handled handguns in gunshops before I was 21 if I didn't say anything about my age, but at other stores they'd ask how old I was at the time and if the answer is <21, no handgun handling takes place.

[Millions-Knives]

I'm not sure if that's law or store policy but the same happened to me. I was 20 and they didn't allow me to handle a handgun. Then again other employees didn't care to ask. I didn't mind, they have a wide spectrum of salesmen, some who know nothing and others who are quite experienced. I usually shop at Reseda and Pasadena and my overall experience is that they're pretty good people. I don't think they suck because you're under 21, there's really not much you can do about it. They may be more interested in customers who can legally buy their guns or for whatever reason but it's strictly business, isn't it?

[thefinger]

At least you got to look at the guns you aren't allowed to buy yet...

I dropped by a Sacramento shop a while back and asked if they had any pistols that were off the CA safe handgun roster. The reason, I explained to them was that my dad is LEO and he told me to keep an eye out for any good deals on police trade-ins etc... guy at the counter turned into a real jerk and told me unkindly that he could come in to do business, but they weren't even going to discuss it with me. After that I headed down to Old Sac Armory and took a look at their LEO only display. too bad they aren't around any longer...

anyway, its funny how employees at gun shops tend to fall into one of two categories: 1) awesome, fun, informative.... or 2) real a**holes

[Shane916]

I had some time to kill on Wednesday before class so I went into Turners San Mucus to check out a .44 Mag Taurus Tracker for when I turn 21 and the guy at the gun counter wouldn't let me handle it because I am not 21 yet. I left in an unrevealing pissed off way and went to class.

I wouldn't take it personal. Definitely a store policy.. not sure about legality. For example, they wouldn't and I don't let anyone under 18 handle a rifle/shotgun without a parent/guardian. Therefore it is understandable they won't allow anyone under 21 to handle a handgun without parental supervision and permission.

[scootergmc]

anyway, its funny how employees at gun shops tend to fall into one of two categories: 1) awesome, fun, informative.... or 2) real a**holes

It's also funny how gun shop customers tend to pigeonhole gun shop employees into two categories.

[vega]

When my kids were not yet 18, Turner's Reseda will not hand over a rifle or shotgun to them but they will hand it to me and they have no objection if I hand it over to my kids, same with handguns.

[accordingtoome]

When my kids were not yet 18, Turner's Reseda will not hand over a rifle or shotgun to them but they will hand it to me and they have no objection if I hand it over to my kids, same with handguns.

didn't that turners get in trouble for losing some guns a few years back also?

[FortCourageArmory]

Not that I don't think the whole Turner's chain isn't "of the devil", but I understand why they won't let someone under 21 handle a handgun. I do the same thing in my store. If you are over 18 but under 21, I'll let you handle all the long guns you want. If you have a parent or guardian with you, you can do the same with the handguns. Lacking that, it's a look-only proposition. Liability issues run deep.

[vega]

didn't that turners get in trouble for losing some guns a few years back also?

I heard that too but when I asked them they didn't deny nor admit.

[chiefcrash]

seeing as it's legal for an 18-year-old to OWN a handgun, i can't imagine how it'd be illegal for an 18-year-old to HANDLE a handgun...

of course the store can't sell you the handgun until your 21, but you ain't asking to buy it, are you?

i'm thinking since they figure you can't buy it, they won't "waste" their time. Of course, they probably don't realize that when you CAN buy handguns, you will remember the experience...

[pullnshoot25]

What exactly are the rules concerning handgun ownership at age 18? Can I buy one from a family member and have free reign to use it at public ranges and whatnot or are there certain restrictions?

[5150-417]

I swore never to shop at turner's because of they're know it all attitude high prices, and bad customer service. Everyone i know that shoots and shops at turners i send them to ammobros that's now they're number 1.

[Rums]

Its actually the law that if you can't buy it from the store, you can't handle it in the store unless a parent hands it to you. Now at the range I shoot at, they know me really well so at the gun counter, they know that my dad would let me hold whatever the hell I want after a few years shooting there, so most of the guys will let me look at whatever. I'm usually there with my dad anyway so it doesn't really matter all that much. However, technically speaking they are not allowed to hand you a handgun unless you're 21 and a long rifle until you're 18. In fact, Big 5 Sporting Goods actually cards you before handing you a long rifle.

[tenpercentfirearms]

Can someone post the law the prohibits under 21 year olds from handling handguns in an adult's (the adult being me the gun shop owner) presense at a gun shop? Also post where it is thereby prohibited for gun shop employees to be under the age of 21 as well. My guess is that law doesn't exist.

Until someone posts it, then it is individual store policy.

Do you know how many 18-20 year olds I get come in and want a handgun as soon as 21? A lot. And guess when they come back because I treat them like the adults they are? On the day of their birthday.

Customers don't want to be treated like criminals, especially younger ones who have to comply withat that bullcrap law anyway. If an 19 or 20 year old soldier comes into my shop right out of Iraq and wants to handle a handgun, I think the guy or gal can handle it. The same goes for 19 or 20 year olds who are just responsible citizens.

There is nothing that prohibits that 18-20 year old from having their parents come in and buy a handgun and then lawfully transfer it to the son/daughter. They can even state, "My dad is going to buy this for me and then we are going to transfer it into my name." That is not a straw purchase as it is allowed by law. So why run that 18-20 year old that has money in his pocket and wants a handgun out of your shop when there is nothing illegal about them looking at or having their parents buy them handguns or they turn 21 next week?