Another "Turners SUCKS" thread

[bigthaiboy]

Anyways, I only have a 2 months and some odd days to go... so yes, I will get to fondle them all I want, wont I?

Have you taken your Handgun Safety Certificate test yet? If not, get that done now, so that on your 21st birthday, you can buy yourself a cool b'day present.

[dadoody]

Have you taken your Handgun Safety Certificate test yet? If not, get that done now, so that on your 21st birthday, you can buy yourself a cool b'day present.

Where do point your handgun?

A.) At a baby
B.) At a police officer
C.) At your intended target
D.) At a priest
E.) All of the above

[leelaw]

I guess it's agreed then huh?
Come next year you can fondle all you want.

Eh.. So it says "give possession or control to" which sounds pretty similar to the language for the loaning of high-capacity magazines. It has been interpreted and specified that the loaning of high-cap magazines to someone who is under your control (a parallel to a gun store employee letting you fondle a handgun, rifle, shotgun, whatever) is not giving that person possession or control of that magazine. In that regard, I disagree that the law forbids a gun shop from letting someone under 21 years-old from handling a handgun.

[dustoff31]

Eh.. So it says "give possession or control to" which sounds pretty similar to the language for the loaning of high-capacity magazines. It has been interpreted and specified that the loaning of high-cap magazines to someone who is under your control (a parallel to a gun store employee letting you fondle a handgun, rifle, shotgun, whatever) is not giving that person possession or control of that magazine. In that regard, I disagree that the law forbids a gun shop from letting someone under 21 years-old from handling a handgun.

The Fed 922(b)1 says essentially the same as the CA Law. Perhaps the dealer is being overly cautious. But in doing so, he won't have worry about paying lawyers to argue the definition of "deliver" or "give possession to", will he?

[bruceflinch]

It's also funny how gun shop customers tend to pigeonhole gun shop employees into two categories.

What other choices are there? They are either helpful or they're not. There is a wrong way & a right way to inform a customer of store policy/legal liabilities.

[Sam Hainn]

Where do point your handgun?

A.) At a baby
B.) At a police officer
C.) At your intended target
D.) At a priest
E.) All of the above

This question or something like it is actually on the test. there should be another possible answer of 'F) none of the above; always point in the safest possible direction'. You don't always have an intended target. if I am cleaning the gun in my living room or standing in the store inspecting the gun, but I need to point it to check sights or action, I should not have an intended target. Someone might say that a safe direction is your target, but there may not even be a safe direction, but instead, a 'safest' direction, which should not serve as an intended target if you were to fire the gun accidentally. Yet you are still pointing the gun.

[Roccobro]

Eh.. So it says "give possession or control to" which sounds pretty similar to the language for the loaning of high-capacity magazines. It has been interpreted and specified that the loaning of high-cap magazines to someone who is under your control (a parallel to a gun store employee letting you fondle a handgun, rifle, shotgun, whatever) is not giving that person possession or control of that magazine. In that regard, I disagree that the law forbids a gun shop from letting someone under 21 years-old from handling a handgun.

The Fed 922(b)1 says essentially the same as the CA Law. Perhaps the dealer is being overly cautious.

I guess it's agreed then huh?
Since only two opinions are needed for consensus here.

Justin

[scootergmc]

What other choices are there? They are either helpful or they're not. There is a wrong way & a right way to inform a customer of store policy/legal liabilities.

Plenty... Types of other gunshop employees:

The standoffish weirdo who doesn't say alot but knows his stuff guy....
The helpful but really doesn't know what he's talking about, friendly nonetheless guy...
The female in charge of the register guy(no offense of course)...
The war story guy...
The *Glock* or go home guy...
The sure, no problem guy...
The steers you another direction no matter what you ask guy...
The gets you what you want even though he knows you're a moron and should be getting something else but knows you're the customer and you must be right and you're not worth arguing with guy...
The it's 7:58 pm and we close at 8:00 pm- stop fondling the pistols, you've been here three times in the last two days wondering if the mini-Glock feels better than the M&P in your hand, go home already guy.


The list goes on and on and on and on and on. Don't pigeonhole employees. They have a job to do and when they do it, inevitably someone will get their panties bunched over nothing and hit the internet labeling them automatic a-holes.

[MINIsandpirate]

oh i love this.....went into a turners(location anonymous) and ask about a Browning BLR '81....course they have none in stock...so he goes and gets the browning catalogue...i point out the one i want (7mm WSM walnut/blued) and the drum roll please....wanted to charge me more than what browning would dream of charging...i think they quoted me 1150! the same rifle anywhere else is about 650 max! oh but the sales guy was more than happy to tell me that the marlin he had on the rack (which the lever and internal parts rattled more than a chevette and the barrel and reciever was a nice shiny stainless) was the better purchase...sry but when it comes to deer hunting YOU DONT NEED A 454 Marlin! sry i try not to pidgeonhole employees but if the customer wants something in particular....especially when he knows EXACTLY what he wants...just go with it and dont complicate matters...oh and the best part... when i called him on the POS marlin and the way it felt and how noisy it was...his reponse...well obviously you dont know deer hunting like i do...deer wouldnt hear that noise.....i wanted to smack him with that precious marlin...at this rate i might just go hunting with my good ol bambi whacker(1300 Winchester 12Ga Slug thrower) and be done with it...

[robitrocks]

I agree

What other choices are there? They are either helpful or they're not. There is a wrong way & a right way to inform a customer of store policy/legal liabilities.

They're potential customers. Regardless of what your local gun shop's policy is, they're old enough to die for their country and should be treated respectfully.

[scootergmc]

oh i love this.....went into a turners(location anonymous) and ask about a Browning BLR '81....course they have none in stock...so he goes and gets the browning catalogue...i point out the one i want (7mm WSM walnut/blued) and the drum roll please....wanted to charge me more than what browning would dream of charging...i think they quoted me 1150! the same rifle anywhere else is about 650 max! oh but the sales guy was more than happy to tell me that the marlin he had on the rack (which the lever and internal parts rattled more than a chevette and the barrel and reciever was a nice shiny stainless) was the better purchase...sry but when it comes to deer hunting YOU DONT NEED A 454 Marlin! sry i try not to pidgeonhole employees but if the customer wants something in particular....especially when he knows EXACTLY what he wants...just go with it and dont complicate matters...oh and the best part... when i called him on the POS marlin and the way it felt and how noisy it was...his reponse...well obviously you dont know deer hunting like i do...deer wouldnt hear that noise.....i wanted to smack him with that precious marlin...at this rate i might just go hunting with my good ol bambi whacker(1300 Winchester 12Ga Slug thrower) and be done with it...

Exactly. He wasn't an A-hole, now was he....

Heck, you were trying to buy something in 7mm WSM. I would've steered you a different direction too.

[Blue]

i just think its funny that especially in a gun store, the more you walk in with the friendlier they're willing to be

I've only dealt with that at Traders up here. You'd have to have a big roll of cash in your hand before anybody would talk to you.

[Jeffrock]

Turner's Pasadena will not accept a Jury Summons as proof of residency even though it is clearly a government-issued document.

The mgr called his boss and was told they would have accepted it two years ago. The mgr did have pity on me though and and let me start DROS, but I have to still show an acceptable proof of residency on pick up. (A good attitude probably helped. Had I been a total dick they prob would not have started drosing it.)

[chiefcrash]

This question or something like it is actually on the test. there should be another possible answer of 'F) none of the above; always point in the safest possible direction'. You don't always have an intended target.

IIRC, when i had to take the HSC test, "Safest Possible Direction" was the correct answer...

i chose "a baby" just for the fun of it (i kid, i kid...)