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  • RandyD
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2009
    • 6673

    I don't understand the purpose of having the competitors to shoot a firearm without knowing where the sights are adjusted and then only giving each competitor one shot. To me, this involves an element of luck. They could eliminate the element of luck by allowing the competitors to fire the firearm prior to the competition to gain an understanding of where the firearm will impact. Then their hits or misses are directly attributable to skill not luck, and they could do this without disclosing the nature of the event.
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    • 9mmepiphany
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2008
      • 8075

      Originally posted by RandyD
      I don't understand the purpose of having the competitors to shoot a firearm without knowing where the sights are adjusted and then only giving each competitor one shot. To me, this involves an element of luck.
      It actually removes all luck by not being able to adjust the sights...they are already adjusted. Everyone shoots to the same sight adjustment and the best pure technique will place the shot the closest to the bull. It is like folks shooting a new handgun, who are shooting low left, wanting to adjust the sights...if your technique is good, you wouldn't have that issue

      It is a pure test of shooting ability
      Last edited by 9mmepiphany; 02-09-2011, 4:34 PM.
      ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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      • 45R
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 2028

        Originally posted by bentnbroken
        That final elimination course of fire was wicked, all those plates running different speeds and then falling off at different distance!! my head would be spinning. anybody have a yard big enough for us to try that!
        I wanna play That looked like fun!
        Pistol-Training.com

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        • 9mmepiphany
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 8075

          Oh, and don't feel bad TNP'r, she didn't look Filipino to me either, and I have a Filipino aunt and had a Filipino room mate for 6 years. Maybe it's the AK.
          She looks more Filipino on her FaceBook page and much cuter too...especially in her shooting outfit. When she speaks, she is obviously Filipino...from TX

          The producers wanted her to project the look you are picking up...obviously successfully...and it ties into her tag line, "Who doesn't want to see a small Asian chick kick butt"
          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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          • SAR_Squid79
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 102

            Thanks for watching, and pulling for us SoCal people!

            The Sharps challenge was a kick in the nuts. We didn't expect that AT ALL! It was really a smooth gun to shoot, and I really liked it. I wouldn't mind having one, except that the .45-70 ammo would bankrupt me.

            Anyway . . . they only gave us instruction on how to operate the rifle. I.e. how to load it, and how the set triggers work. We received no sight-in information. We were only told that an "expert" had verified that the rifle was on target. Beyond that - if you were farther down the line in the shooting order, you got to see where everybody else was hitting (but you didn't know how they were holding), and you could choose to adjust your shot based on that - or not.

            I shot in that Low/Right dog pile with most everyone else. Jay pulled off THE ONLY bullseye!

            ...but in all honesty - I did not want to be the one with the responsibility of picking a team.




            GO RED TEAM!!!
            Last edited by SAR_Squid79; 02-09-2011, 6:08 PM.
            ~Jamie
            Top Shot Season-2
            U.S. Navy Rescue Swimmer
            "So Others May Live"

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            • jimmykan
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 3101

              Originally posted by SAR_Squid79
              We received no sight-in information. We were only told that an "expert" had verified that the rifle was on target.
              An "expert" verified beforehand the point-of-aim to point-of-impact for all the contestants huh...

              Doesn't a rifle recoil differently based on the shooter's right/left handedness, style of hold, body geometry, etc. and as a result of the varying recoil behavior, doesn't the POI change from shooter-to-shooter even if they take the same sight picture?

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              • auditech79
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 72

                Congrats to the cal gunners that are on the show! Hope one of you guys pulled it off!

                Hey Jamie, how much did the bullet drop in the sharps challenge? And kudos to Jay that hit the bullseye, that was a great shot.

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                • choprzrul
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 6551

                  Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                  It actually removes all luck by not being able to adjust the sights...they are already adjusted. Everyone shoots to the same sight adjustment and the best pure technique will place the shot the closest to the bull. It is like folks shooting a new handgun, who are shooting low left, wanting to adjust the sights...if your technique is good, you wouldn't have that issue

                  It is a pure test of shooting ability
                  ^^This^^

                  Plus, by 1/2 way through, you could see a grouping developing low and right. I was thinking that I would be aiming 6-12" @ 10:30. If I was off, it wouldn't be any more off than those who missed low right.

                  Curious if this crossed the mind of any of the actual shooters?

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                  • spectre-9
                    Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 384

                    Originally posted by rojocorsa
                    Mr. Frasure of Newpt Beach, CA, has good taste.
                    Hahaha yeah, dude looks sharp. When they first all walked out i was like, "Does this guy know where he is?"

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                    • swat
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 643

                      Most importantly, they all are very photogenic!!!

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                      • SAR_Squid79
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 102

                        Originally posted by jimmykan
                        An "expert" verified beforehand the point-of-aim to point-of-impact for all the contestants huh...
                        ...Exactly - but that's what they wanted. They wanted that SHOCK VALUE of us having to step up *RIGHT NOW* with *NO PRACTICE* with an unfamiliar firearm, and shoot cold (literally and figuratively) and perform in front of each other. This was the first time that we were allowed to even talk to each other, and now we're all there for the first time being critiqued and judged by each other. They did not manufacture "drama", but they did a great job at creating stress-inducing situations.

                        Originally posted by auditech79
                        Hey Jamie, how much did the bullet drop in the sharps challenge? And kudos to Jay that hit the bullseye, that was a great shot.
                        If I recall correctly - I aimed about 10" above the target at about the 11 o'clock position, and my shot hit at 5 o'clock, 18" from center.
                        ~Jamie
                        Top Shot Season-2
                        U.S. Navy Rescue Swimmer
                        "So Others May Live"

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                        • Cokebottle
                          Seņor Member
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 32373

                          Originally posted by JanG
                          and same for eliminations

                          if the rest of the season has as much shooting and as little bs as the first episode, it should make for good watching
                          Going to have to see if Season-1 Ep-1 is available streaming.
                          I seem to remember a lot of shooting and little drama in that one too.

                          Don't forget, last night they had 3 shooting events, and the training segment was cut very short compared to normal.


                          And there was the drama over Jay's "interviews"
                          - Rich

                          Originally posted by dantodd
                          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                          • Cokebottle
                            Seņor Member
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 32373

                            Originally posted by macrogp18
                            Does anyone know where it was being filmed?
                            Not far from Santa Clarita.

                            I don't know if the studios own a bunch of land up there, or if a rancher that isn't ranching anymore is making the studios good lease deals, but "Wipe Out" is shot in the same general area as well as a number of other shows.
                            - Rich

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                            • TNP'R
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2010
                              • 7832

                              Well I hope that the calgunners dominate the show.

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                              • zoglog
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1059

                                Originally posted by Ranger20
                                HIPOINT

                                dood, you just made me jizz in my pants
                                More guns for followers of the FSM!

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