Trunk Gun Poll

[inbox485]

The Librarian seems to think differently. I agree with his interpretation....

In addition they each have a clause that specifically states that each section does not limit other lawful forms of carry.

[Steve O]

I'm a pretty social guy. Coffee shops, public places. Places that could be of target for a mad man. I carry my AR unloaded in the trunk. With a few loaded mags next to it. It's legal to do, and someday it just may save someones life...I'm not Rambo... But I am a citizen of this nation and I feel it is our duty to self police...

Whats the point? By the time you get out, get your gun and load it, you are either dead or commiting a murder. Just drive off.

Not necessarily. Say you're out side at a local coffee shop drinking your coffee and enjoying a cig, and you see a guy walk in and start shooting. Although there is nothing you can do about what he has already done, you can be near the door waiting for him to exit with your rifle ready... and what if he was planing on walking across the street to the book store? How many lives did you just save??

I know you may think this sound like hero stuff, but with the way the shooting are going these days, their just isn't enough armed citizens!
Arm up guys! Lets show this nation that WE CAN stop these MAD GUNMEN! Imagine, the news coverage if each of these mass shootings were stopped not by the police, but by a nearby armed citizen before the police were able to arrive! Eventually we would gain the support for CCW's and the nation would realize the truth in the quote bellow...

"There is one thing we have learned in these situations. The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. And instantaneous responders, is always better than first responders. Because first responders are always minutes away, when seconds count." - Wayne Lapierre

[packnrat]

this is why there is room behind the seat in a standard cab pu.
one rifle, 2K rounds.
one pistol, 5K rounds.

[OHOD]

No trunk.
Can't bring a gun on campus.
I think, I'm not sure, but I can't have a gun in my vehicle on hospital property.

[The Director]

I think, I'm not sure, but I can't have a gun in my vehicle on hospital property.

Why not? If you shoot someone, at least they don't have far to go!

[inbox485]

No trunk.
Can't bring a gun on campus.
I think, I'm not sure, but I can't have a gun in my vehicle on hospital property.

Some states have that law. If CA does, I've never heard of it. Read the exceptions in 626.9 and decide for yourself as I'm sure it would be a matter of some debate, but the way I read it, you are fine having a ULCC in your car on a school campus. Getting expelled when the bomb dogs flag your car is another matter. Then again back in high school I used to smear black powder on my backpack just to see if the bomb dogs would ever detect it. They missed it on numerous occasions (I was in high school during columbine and my school had the local PD do random sweeps for drugs/bombs for a couple years).

[KylaGWolf]

i am still waiting on the experts to chime in on the legalities of a trunk gun. if there is indeed a legal way to keep a trunk gun then i would seriously consider doing it, but i need to know the legalities beforehand.

You can carry a gun anytime in your vehicle. As long as if you are going through a school zone it is in a locked container all is golden. A trunk can be considered a locked container. So if you wanted you could have a gun in your trunk 24/7 and be legal. That being said unless your car is garaged when home or you have a really good and loud alarm. I am not sure I would leave my gun in a trunk all the time due to the fact that it would be too easy to break in to and get it out. Not to mention I only own one handgun and well that is my SD weapon so when I am home it is out with me.

[zman]

From CalGunLaws.com :


Question-
Can I continually carry a handgun in my car in a locked container other than the utility or glove compartment for self-defense? I do not have a concealed weapons permit.

Answer-
No. The legal authorization to transport a concealed handgun without a permit unloaded and in a motor vehicle's trunk or a separate locked container in Penal Code Section 12026.1 applies only while going to or from the specific places, and for the specific purposes, identified in Penal Code Section 12026.2 (going hunting, to or from a range, etc.). It is illegal to carry a concealed handgun without a permit for general purposes, such as self defense, even though the firearm is transported in the trunk of a motor vehicle or in a separate locked container. Section 12026.1 is not very clear on this point, but Section 12026.2 is, so it is prudent to read them together. Again, handguns being lawfully transported concealed in a motor vehicle's trunk or in a separate locked container cannot be loaded nor can ammunition be attached to them in any manner.

Source-
http://www.calgunlaws.com/index.php/...ns-permit.html

You can carry a gun anytime in your vehicle. As long as if you are going through a school zone it is in a locked container all is golden. A trunk can be considered a locked container. So if you wanted you could have a gun in your trunk 24/7 and be legal. That being said unless your car is garaged when home or you have a really good and loud alarm. I am not sure I would leave my gun in a trunk all the time due to the fact that it would be too easy to break in to and get it out. Not to mention I only own one handgun and well that is my SD weapon so when I am home it is out with me.

I wouldn't.

[The Director]

zman, you can keep reposting that all you want, but I think that's questionable doctrine. heck, Librarian even said that handgun in car=okay and that the two PC sections were for different purposes. No offense to Chuck Michel but until the Right People say it's a no go, I'm still going to go with perfectly legal.

[The Director]

Actually Zman and Cannoneer....I have a scenario / question for you. Take off the tinfoil hats for a second.

A guy for whatever reason is stopped in a traffic scenario, and because he's trusting (and stupid) he allows his vehicle to be searched (which a sane person would never do). Lo and behold the Officer finds a handgun in the enclosed and locked trunk of his car. The handgun is unloaded, and is sitting next to two full ten round magazines. The handgun is stored legally. The officer asks why the guy has a handgun in his trunk. The guy refuses to answer the question. He has no obvious range gear, is not coming back or going to a hunt, and is not in a school zone. The guy is not in the process of committing any act to which the cop has PC or even reasonable suspicion of anything. He is joe law abiding citizen going about his business.

The driver is clean of any outstanding warrants, and a drivers license check comes back fine.

Now I want you to tell me exactly how a prosecutor is going to nail him for a violation of 12026.1 or 12026.2.

Don't come back at me with the old "ATF / DOJ are monitoring this forum BS. This is a fictional scenario. Not interested in paranoia.

You (or Chuck Michel or any other lawyer) tell me exactly how you can be prosecuted in the above circumstance.

[RANDO]

I have a trunk bat and bullet proof vest

[cryoguy]

Well I drive a 68 VW Baja bug so, Carrying anything is risky. Just to the range and back is as far as it goes.

[jmf_tracy]

i appreciate all the responses to my post, but i am still unconvinced one way or the other. this seems to be a debateable issue. i sure wish some of the CGF guys would offer their opinion on this.

[zman]

Actually Zman and Cannoneer....I have a scenario / question for you. Take off the tinfoil hats for a second.

A guy for whatever reason is stopped in a traffic scenario, and because he's trusting (and stupid) he allows his vehicle to be searched (which a sane person would never do). Lo and behold the Officer finds a handgun in the enclosed and locked trunk of his car. The handgun is unloaded, and is sitting next to two full ten round magazines. The handgun is stored legally. The officer asks why the guy has a handgun in his trunk. The guy refuses to answer the question. He has no obvious range gear, is not coming back or going to a hunt, and is not in a school zone. The guy is not in the process of committing any act to which the cop has PC or even reasonable suspicion of anything. He is joe law abiding citizen going about his business.

The driver is clean of any outstanding warrants, and a drivers license check comes back fine.

Now I want you to tell me exactly how a prosecutor is going to nail him for a violation of 12026.1 or 12026.2.

Don't come back at me with the old "ATF / DOJ are monitoring this forum BS. This is a fictional scenario. Not interested in paranoia.

You (or Chuck Michel or any other lawyer) tell me exactly how you can be prosecuted in the above circumstance.

I am a licensed Civil Engineer not a Lawyer. If a Firearms Lawyer fighting ON OUR SIDE tells me to not carry a handgun in my trunk 24/7 for SD, I won't. Until there's a solid stand/understanding by CGF on the matter (e.g. Bullet Button), I will follow the lawyer's recommendation.

[The Director]

I am a licensed Civil Engineer not a Lawyer. If a Firearms Lawyer fighting ON OUR SIDE tells me to not carry a handgun in my trunk 24/7 for SD, I won't. Until there's a solid stand/understanding by CGF on the matter (e.g. Bullet Button), I will follow the lawyer's recommendation.

Lame. We're debating here. Did I say go carry a handgun in your car? No. I said tell me why you can't.

If you don't want to intelligently provide a backup for your argument, then quit reposting Michel's "recommendation".