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  • #91
    EBR Works
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Dec 2007
    • 10492

    No trunk gun here, CCW.


    Check out our e-commerce site here:

    www.ebrworks.com

    Serving you from Prescott, AZ

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    • #92
      zman
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 3639

      Originally posted by The Director
      Lame. We're debating here. Did I say go carry a handgun in your car? No. I said tell me why you can't.

      If you don't want to intelligently provide a backup for your argument, then quit reposting Michel's "recommendation".
      LOL Michel's recommendation IS my backup.

      Super Robot VOLTES V

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      • #93
        inbox485
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 3677

        Originally posted by The Director
        Actually Zman and Cannoneer....I have a scenario / question for you. Take off the tinfoil hats for a second.

        A guy for whatever reason is stopped in a traffic scenario, and because he's trusting (and stupid) he allows his vehicle to be searched (which a sane person would never do). Lo and behold the Officer finds a handgun in the enclosed and locked trunk of his car. The handgun is unloaded, and is sitting next to two full ten round magazines. The handgun is stored legally. The officer asks why the guy has a handgun in his trunk. The guy refuses to answer the question. He has no obvious range gear, is not coming back or going to a hunt, and is not in a school zone. The guy is not in the process of committing any act to which the cop has PC or even reasonable suspicion of anything. He is joe law abiding citizen going about his business.

        The driver is clean of any outstanding warrants, and a drivers license check comes back fine.

        Now I want you to tell me exactly how a prosecutor is going to nail him for a violation of 12026.1 or 12026.2.

        Don't come back at me with the old "ATF / DOJ are monitoring this forum BS. This is a fictional scenario. Not interested in paranoia.

        You (or Chuck Michel or any other lawyer) tell me exactly how you can be prosecuted in the above circumstance.
        You don't violate 12026.1 or ~.2. The theoretical charge would be 12025. The defense would be 12026.1. If the DA raised 12026.2 you point out 12026.2(c):
        This section does not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful
        carrying or transportation of any pistol, revolver, or other firearm
        capable of being concealed upon the person in accordance with this
        chapter.
        That expressly prevents 12026.2 from limiting any other lawful means of carry (including those means found in 12026.1).

        Simple enough zman?
        Up for rent...

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        • #94
          The Director
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2769

          Originally posted by inbox485
          You don't violate 12026.1 or ~.2. The theoretical charge would be 12025. The defense would be 12026.1. If the DA raised 12026.2 you point out 12026.2(c):
          That expressly prevents 12026.2 from limiting any other lawful means of carry (including those means found in 12026.1).

          Simple enough zman?
          Thank you.

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          • #95
            glockman19
            Banned
            • Jun 2007
            • 10486

            Originally posted by IrishPirate
            only in the trunk on the way to the range
            And then it's unloaded and in a locked case.

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            • #96
              sirnonz
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1213

              don't have one.

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              • #97
                inbox485
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2009
                • 3677

                Originally posted by sirnonz
                don't have one.
                A gun or a trunk?
                Up for rent...

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                • #98
                  tombinghamthegreat
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2785

                  I don't have a trunk in my jeep but i use a carrying case as a trunk for school zones. Just depends on what i am driving. I don't have a trunk gun when i am going to college for legal reasons.
                  "Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
                  "The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
                  Originally posted by forumguy
                  The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
                  Originally posted by bwiese
                  Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.

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