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  • #31
    SharedShots
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2021
    • 2277

    Originally posted by drkphibr
    Well, this was a first for me at the range today.

    Here goes. Arrived mid afternoon at a local range to test some recent adjustments. After parking, went to check in. There was a line. Unusual for that time of day nowadays.

    As I'm waiting, there is a couple in front of me. Both in their mid/late 30's or so. He was doing all the talking so I was thinking maybe a date. Then based on the conversation I could tell they were "together".

    However, based on her facial/body expressions, the range was the LAST place she looked like she wanted to be. More conversation and she mentioned her brother being in law enforcement and shooting with her father as well when she was younger (as the male said something like "see, you have experience"). I thought I heard her also say "she doesn't like guns", but shook it off thinking then WHY would you go to the range? Hard not to overhear when they are standing 2 feet in front of you.

    As they check in, he tells the cashier they are shooting pistol and rifle. They pay, get their targets and off they go. I check in, pay and go grab some of my gear from the car.

    On my last trip out to the car I see the woman heading towards the cashier's area and she looks like she was crying. Red faced, teary. I thought maybe they had a fight. Whatever. Finished grabbing my gear.

    At my bench I realized I left my drink in the car, so walked backed to get that. At the same time I'm heading to my car, the couple are going up to the cashier. Guy has his hands full of his gear (rifle bag, pistol bag, ammo can, etc.) and she still looks all teary eyed. Now I had to be nosy and get the low down.

    Guy tells the cashier "she doesn't feel comfortable" and they are not going to be shooting (I'm guessing he was trying to get his money back - BTW, he was a member based on the QA the casher asked and his answers as they charged her a member price - again, wife??).

    I go to my car, get my drink and as I'm heading in, they are heading out.

    So I'm thinking a few things to myself:
    1. Since he's a member, he's into pew pews, especially if he brought rifle/pistol to shoot.
    2. If that's a GF and not yet a wife...RUN. You will NEVER enjoy your pew pews again. You will always be solo @ the range!
    3. If that is your wife, OMG, you are going to be one miserable pew pew owner after today's traumatic experience. Tears...over just seeing/hearing pew pews in action (my honey bunch would give her the benefit of the doubt and say she probably had some very bad pew pew experience growing up that imprinted on her and now she's not a fan...but then why go to the range? Maybe to make her man happy? Who knows.


    In any case, I had never seen that reaction to the range before. Now adding that to the list of...interesting.
    Originally posted by drkphibr
    Ummm, me thinks you are reading a bit more into this than what actually occurred.

    She wasn't balling and crying in tears. Her cheeks were flush and eyes teary, so you could tell she was bothered or upset (she wasn't in meltdown status). SAFETY was never an issue or concern as she was walking normally towards the cashier and not hindered in any way. She didn't look like she needed assistance and quite frankly whatever was bothering her wasn't my business. No one's safety was an issue for me to "jump into" heroics action. I'm all for chivalry, but wasn't needed here IMO. No need to over complicate a delicate (and possibly embarrassing) situation already.
    Ummmm, what you wrote is what you said. Maybe read your OP again.

    You said this "Now I had to be nosy and get the low down.

    It's not about heroics or chivary, it's about what a lot of people around here seem to talk about a lot , situational awareness.

    Tell you what, I'm behind someone who is crying, has been crying has said they don't like guns and I'm at a range? Then it becomes my business to just figure out a way to be discreet and find out if they are ok. That doesn't mean suit up in armor, get out the white horse and rescue someone but it means knowing how to determine if something else is wrong without making it look like you are into their business. There are plenty of ways to do that.

    It's about being aware that someone who obviously has some kind of issue being given a gun and ammunition. You're at a range, it takes literally no effort to ask something as benign as hi folks, great day to get to the range" and just watch for reaction.

    You're the one who said "Now I had to be nosy and get the low down."
    Let Go of the Status Quo!

    Don't worry, it will never pass...How in the hell did that pass?

    Think past your gun, it's the last resort, the first is your brain.

    Defense is a losing proposition when time is on the side of the opponent. In the history of humanity, no defense has ever won against an enemy with time on their side.

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    • #32
      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 14555

      Originally posted by Brother_Hesekiel
      I'm married to a bleeding heart liberal. We have many thinks in common, enjoy our time together, work great as a team, but I stay away from discussing politics, guns, and issues in general that would trigger a discussion.

      I have a bunch of great friends, many of whom I share a lot with. If those friends are not pro-gun, I just don't discuss gun stuff with them. If they are on a religious path I don't discuss religion. If they are weird in terms of money I don't discuss finances with them.

      I go shooting, and my wife has zero interest in it. She has no clue how many guns I have, let alone which ones. It's just not on her radar. Sometimes, good enough has to be good enough. I don't think there are many couples that are 100% in tune with everything their partner does. So be it.
      I had it worse, I married a Conservative, we were both Conservatives. After 36 years of marriage, she "Went to the Dark side" and became a bleeding heart liberal, I think mainly because of TDS, but she was also easily influenced by friends, who were all liberals, largely due to the sport they shared (Ocean Sports, where inexplicably, 98% of them are Champagne Commies). She was also a teacher and almost all teachers are lunatic DemonRats too.

      It's sad, I used to take her shooting and she was actually a decent shot, naturally, hitting 15 birds at the 16 yard line her first time she ever even held a shotgun! It went from that to, kind of enjoying shooting with me to "I hate guns, why are you so into guns?" a few years later.

      Politics weren't the main reasons we divorced but the mindset definitely began to clash with my sanity and her relative insanity. Our divorce was final two years ago. (Breathes sigh of relief). It wasn't fun having to completely change and rebuild my life after 36 years of mostly happy marriage but that was how it went down. It wasn't guns that broke it up, it was her completely turning into another person than the one I knew and married.

      But her attitude toward guns and shooting was definitely a sign.
      NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer

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      • #33
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 56905

        Originally posted by Yugo
        maybe they were shooting a TT33 and the hammer bit her
        Only crazy people have TT33's.
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        • #34
          Scratch705
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2009
          • 12520

          She wasnt teary when checking in. It was only after going up to the shooting line did she come back teary and they were on their way out.

          So what was OP suppose to do. Stop them from leaving to question her mental state? They were leaving, zero safety risk to anyone else on the range.
          Originally posted by leelaw
          Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
          Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
          Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
          Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
          Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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          • #35
            HKAllTheThings
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2020
            • 1313

            Thought this thread was going to be about buying ammo at the range shop

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            • #36
              Scratch705
              I need a LIFE!!
              • May 2009
              • 12520

              Originally posted by HKAllTheThings
              Thought this thread was going to be about buying ammo at the range shop
              That wouldnt be tears. That would be butt now sore.
              Originally posted by leelaw
              Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
              Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
              Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
              Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
              Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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              • #37
                DaveInOroValley
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Jan 2010
                • 8965

                After reading this thread I realize what a keeper my wife is in regards to shooting and everything related. All the females in her family love to shoot as well, must be something in their genes.

                The other day my wife took out her recently new to her AR and field stripped and cleaned it. I asked her why she was cleaning it and she just said "since it's new to me I want to learn about it".
                NRA Life Member

                Vet since 1978

                "Don't bother me with facts, Son. I've already made up my mind." -Foghorn Leghorn

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                • #38
                  Squatch
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 886

                  Guess I got a keeper. Only time my wife cries is when I beat her.

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                  • #39
                    drkphibr
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2453

                    Originally posted by SharedShots
                    Ummmm, what you wrote is what you said. Maybe read your OP again.

                    You said this "Now I had to be nosy and get the low down.

                    It's not about heroics or chivary, it's about what a lot of people around here seem to talk about a lot , situational awareness.

                    Tell you what, I'm behind someone who is crying, has been crying has said they don't like guns and I'm at a range? Then it becomes my business to just figure out a way to be discreet and find out if they are ok. That doesn't mean suit up in armor, get out the white horse and rescue someone but it means knowing how to determine if something else is wrong without making it look like you are into their business. There are plenty of ways to do that.

                    It's about being aware that someone who obviously has some kind of issue being given a gun and ammunition. You're at a range, it takes literally no effort to ask something as benign as hi folks, great day to get to the range" and just watch for reaction.

                    You're the one who said "Now I had to be nosy and get the low down."
                    Thanks for quoting me, REPEATEDLY. Got it the firs time. You obviously have challenges with what I wrote and or how I reacted (clearly different from the Mr. Lancelot you would apparently have been). My curiosity of the situation got the best of me ("now I had to be nosy and get the low down") and I satisfied that curiosity (again, not a safety issue for her or ANYONE else) but that still didn't open the door for me to assist this damsel who was clearly not in any real distress.

                    Tito, hand me a tissue...

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                    • #40
                      drkphibr
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2453

                      Originally posted by Scratch705
                      She wasnt teary when checking in. It was only after going up to the shooting line did she come back teary and they were on their way out.

                      So what was OP suppose to do. Stop them from leaving to question her mental state? They were leaving, zero safety risk to anyone else on the range.

                      This ^. EXACTLY THIS!

                      SS is too butthurt to understand it and has to insert "this is what you should have done" into my actions or comments. He should hang out at the range with a therapy sign and a box of "comfort tissues".

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                      • #41
                        SharedShots
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2021
                        • 2277

                        Originally posted by hunterb
                        LOL Karen.

                        The feminine hysterics are embarrassing. REEEEEE!!!

                        It doesn't take much to ask a simple question. It takes more of a man to ask the question than be afraid to ask it.


                        Read the OP for the definition you are confused about. Someone running to the Internet and posting about a woman crying/whatever and their having to not just watch but then dive in to get "the low down".


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                        Last edited by SharedShots; 08-01-2022, 1:45 PM.
                        Let Go of the Status Quo!

                        Don't worry, it will never pass...How in the hell did that pass?

                        Think past your gun, it's the last resort, the first is your brain.

                        Defense is a losing proposition when time is on the side of the opponent. In the history of humanity, no defense has ever won against an enemy with time on their side.

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                        • #42
                          CAL.BAR
                          CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5632

                          Originally posted by Scratch705
                          for point 3, isn't like a quarter to even half of the people on this forum complain about having to hide their gun purchases from their wives?

                          so a lot of gun people have spouses that dislike guns but yet they still married them.
                          Yep. That's the case here. Wife HATES guns! Wants NOTHING to do with them. So... I shoot with friends. No big deal. She doesn't go to the range and I don't go to Rom/Coms or other chick flicks. Each to their own. No big deal.

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                          • #43
                            71MUSTY
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2014
                            • 7029

                            Originally posted by drkphibr
                            Well, this was a first for me at the range today.

                            Here goes. Arrived mid afternoon at a local range to test some recent adjustments. After parking, went to check in. There was a line. Unusual for that time of day nowadays.

                            As I'm waiting, there is a couple in front of me. Both in their mid/late 30's or so. He was doing all the talking so I was thinking maybe a date. Then based on the conversation I could tell they were "together".

                            However, based on her facial/body expressions, the range was the LAST place she looked like she wanted to be. More conversation and she mentioned her brother being in law enforcement and shooting with her father as well when she was younger (as the male said something like "see, you have experience"). I thought I heard her also say "she doesn't like guns", but shook it off thinking then WHY would you go to the range? Hard not to overhear when they are standing 2 feet in front of you.

                            As they check in, he tells the cashier they are shooting pistol and rifle. They pay, get their targets and off they go. I check in, pay and go grab some of my gear from the car.

                            On my last trip out to the car I see the woman heading towards the cashier's area and she looks like she was crying. Red faced, teary. I thought maybe they had a fight. Whatever. Finished grabbing my gear.

                            At my bench I realized I left my drink in the car, so walked backed to get that. At the same time I'm heading to my car, the couple are going up to the cashier. Guy has his hands full of his gear (rifle bag, pistol bag, ammo can, etc.) and she still looks all teary eyed. Now I had to be nosy and get the low down.

                            Guy tells the cashier "she doesn't feel comfortable" and they are not going to be shooting (I'm guessing he was trying to get his money back - BTW, he was a member based on the QA the casher asked and his answers as they charged her a member price - again, wife??).

                            I go to my car, get my drink and as I'm heading in, they are heading out.

                            So I'm thinking a few things to myself:
                            1. Since he's a member, he's into pew pews, especially if he brought rifle/pistol to shoot.
                            2. If that's a GF and not yet a wife...RUN. You will NEVER enjoy your pew pews again. You will always be solo @ the range!
                            3. If that is your wife, OMG, you are going to be one miserable pew pew owner after today's traumatic experience. Tears...over just seeing/hearing pew pews in action (my honey bunch would give her the benefit of the doubt and say she probably had some very bad pew pew experience growing up that imprinted on her and now she's not a fan...but then why go to the range? Maybe to make her man happy? Who knows.


                            In any case, I had never seen that reaction to the range before. Now adding that to the list of...interesting.
                            Not much different that how my wife started. I realized I should not be the one teaching her so I got her a self defense class that included an hour of range time. After that it was private lessons with the RO. Then Front Sight. Now she has CCW in 40 states and shoots better then I do.
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                            • #44
                              SharedShots
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2021
                              • 2277

                              Originally posted by CAL.BAR
                              Yep. That's the case here. Wife HATES guns! Wants NOTHING to do with them. So... I shoot with friends. No big deal. She doesn't go to the range and I don't go to Rom/Coms or other chick flicks. Each to their own. No big deal.
                              No kidding. Almost like expecting everyone who likes guns to also like gardening.






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                              Let Go of the Status Quo!

                              Don't worry, it will never pass...How in the hell did that pass?

                              Think past your gun, it's the last resort, the first is your brain.

                              Defense is a losing proposition when time is on the side of the opponent. In the history of humanity, no defense has ever won against an enemy with time on their side.

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                              • #45
                                johncage
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2018
                                • 993

                                not forcing people to shoot and carry guns is being complicit in their murder and rape, i'm always pushing people to shoot and carry guns to their annoyance and anger. people consider me a pest. but it's for their own good. plus if they die, it's no longer on my conscience.

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