CA DROS Delay

[marc.]

Turners will release a ppt on undetermined but not on a store sale.

Turner's will not release on undetermined regardless of type of sale. The person that told you this was incorrect.

[LMan57]

So Last week I picked up a pistol Dros from Counter-Strike they release it on Undetermined but to my surprise, I was able to pick it up after my 10 day wait like usual. So the time before is undetermined BassPro, this time not counter strike. I did a Live scan July 29th and it says still progress at the portal so I called which they told me to call and see what they can do I talked to their agent and she told me to wait until 120 days have passed and she gave me a new email not listed on their web site so the run around continues...

[DolphinFan]

[LMan57]

Well, they lost any Gun sales to me that's for sure.

[pacrat]

When a retailer of already severely regulated products covered by constitutional mandate. CHOOSES to ARBITRARILY DENY A CUSTOMER a constitutional RIGHT.

They are CHOOSING TO BE TURDS.

That's one of several reasons that I call them.

TURD-ner's

Because IMHO they EARNED and deserve the TURD TITLE.

[Hispeed1]

Got me too

I've been approved to purchase firearms and ammunition before. And I was able to purchase ammo a few days ago. So I bought a new pistol a few days ago and was expected to pick it up today, 12/19 after the 10 day wait. When I went to pick it up, the dealer told me that I got a delay on my DROS. They said that its been happening a lot lately and that CA DOJ will be sending me a letter about it and that they will call me by 1/7/23 to let me know what CA DOJ says

[ar15barrels]

Turner's will not release on undetermined regardless of type of sale. The person that told you this was incorrect.

It's quite possible that different stores have different policies so just because one store told you something, don't ***-U-ME that other stores are the same.

[LMan57]

I go to Counter-Strike about 6 miles away and they will release none of this nonsense of not releasing undetermined.

[m1carbine]

I'm dealing with this now. I've bought 40+ guns since 2013, never had a single delay or problem until I bought a consigned AR on the 2nd of this month, got a delay letter dated 12/8 on 12/17. Went to the store yesterday and it's still delayed, it'll be 30 days on 1/1 so there is still some time for it to change, not hopeful though. I printed out the forms for Livescan in case I need to go do that, but my understanding is that's not really necessary unless you get a denial.

I'm supposed to start DROS on an MR556 today since my 30 days is up at 5PM so I'm a little nervous. The dealer with the delayed transfer suggested I try to DROS the MR anyway. Is it possible to get delayed for car registration that's a few weeks overdue? Registration was due on 11/22 but I paid it yesterday. The FFL had never heard of a delay due to overdue registration, but this is California after all...I'm not really sure what to do at this point except wait.

[LMan57]

I'm dealing with this now. I've bought 40+ guns since 2013, never had a single delay or problem until I bought a consigned AR on the 2nd of this month, got a delay letter dated 12/8 on 12/17. Went to the store yesterday and it's still delayed, it'll be 30 days on 1/1 so there is still some time for it to change, not hopeful though. I printed out the forms for Livescan in case I need to go do that, but my understanding is that's not really necessary unless you get a denial.

I'm supposed to start DROS on an MR556 today since my 30 days is up at 5PM so I'm a little nervous. The dealer with the delayed transfer suggested I try to DROS the MR anyway. Is it possible to get delayed for car registration that's a few weeks overdue? Registration was due on 11/22 but I paid it yesterday. The FFL had never heard of a delay due to overdue registration, but this is California after all...I'm not really sure what to do at this point except wait.

If the delay turns undetermined will your FFL release it to you If not I would find a FFL that will release it on an Undetermined that's what I did, also I have Live scan that I'm waiting to hear back but they have been giving me the run around since July 29th.

[m1carbine]

If the delay turns undetermined will your FFL release it to you If not I would find a FFL that will release it on an Undetermined that's what I did, also I have Live scan that I'm waiting to hear back but they have been giving me the run around since July 29th.

They have a policy to not release on undetermined so I may have to re-DROS. If I do, I'll do the Livescan. The shop with the MR will release if you're not a first time customer; I'm not so I should be good there. I'm moving to Tucson soon, hopefully this is the last time I have to deal with this BS.

[ar15barrels]

I'm supposed to start DROS on an MR556 today since my 30 days is up at 5PM so I'm a little nervous.
The dealer with the delayed transfer suggested I try to DROS the MR anyway.
Is it possible to get delayed for car registration that's a few weeks overdue?
Registration was due on 11/22 but I paid it yesterday.
The FFL had never heard of a delay due to overdue registration, but this is California after all...I'm not really sure what to do at this point except wait.

Your car registration has nothing to do with it unless you used that as proof of residency.

Do NOT start any new DROS until the old one is cleared up.
Having a previous delayed DROS without it getting cleared will automatically get you another delay so you are literally just giving the state money for nothing.
Let the process finish on the first delay before you start any new DROS.
As part of the delay, they are going to run a more thorough background check on you and eventually clear you but they are a few months backlogged on that process, so your least expensive option is to just wait for it to clear on it's own.

[m1carbine]

Your car registration has nothing to do with it unless you used that as proof of residency.

Do NOT start any new DROS until the old one is cleared up.
Having a previous delayed DROS without it getting cleared will automatically get you another delay so you are literally just giving the state money for nothing.
Let the process finish on the first delay before you start any new DROS.
As part of the delay, they are going to run a more thorough background check on you and eventually clear you but they are a few months backlogged on that process, so your least expensive option is to just wait for it to clear on it's own.

Thanks, I appreciate the advice. I'll be going to the shop today to discuss with them and see how long they can hold the MR for me in the meantime. I still have about 12 days to go before the DROS that triggered the delay letter hits 30 days. Guess I'll go get the Livescan done.

[Deelayed]

Your car registration has nothing to do with it unless you used that as proof of residency.

Do NOT start any new DROS until the old one is cleared up.
Having a previous delayed DROS without it getting cleared will automatically get you another delay so you are literally just giving the state money for nothing.
Let the process finish on the first delay before you start any new DROS.
As part of the delay, they are going to run a more thorough background check on you and eventually clear you but they are a few months backlogged on that process, so your least expensive option is to just wait for it to clear on it's own.

Backlogged? How can they be Back logged ? Everything is run by computer . It's what part of the dros fee is supposed to pay for . Matter of fact if I recall, the doj was supposed to update and modernize the system with the last dros price increase. I am pretty sure the doj has plenty of personnel to do the job. And covid is not a thing anymore.

SO in reality there is no excuse for this tactic of being made to wait in hopes of making you give up or not buy another one because of the hassle. It is well known that ffls often get multiple undetermined/release numbers at a time. It is also been reported that the majority of the individuals that have received the undetermined /release numbers never had a check perfomed at all. Reason being that nobody got around to do the actual check. So the delay is automatic . undetermined is automatic, and the release numbers are automatic but require a ive person to repeat them to the ffl .
It's nothing but a manipulation of the system we were told WOULD NOT BE USED TO IMPEDE OUR RIGHTS. A SYSTEM WE HAVE AND ARE STILL PAYING FOR. A SYSTEM THAT IS BEING FUNDED BY US TO BE USED AGAINST US

[m1carbine]

Sounds like DOJ is up to some new bs after the most recent lawsuit. I checked in yesterday on my MR556A1, clerk said he's been seeing alot more unexplained delays and undetermined in the last few months. One of the guys behind the counter said he's got both a COE and a CCW, and was/still is delayed on his most recent purchase. Dafuq?