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  • #46
    S.A.
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 2022

    ^^^^^LAPD also found shooting unjustifiable

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    • #47
      ohsmily
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2005
      • 8963

      Originally posted by pythonfan
      Reading the article, they point out that one of his charges was "assault with a semi auto firearm". Is that a thing, or creative journalism to demonize semi auto?
      It is an enhancement within the assault statute. Assault with a machine gun is worse.
      Last edited by ohsmily; 08-09-2021, 8:35 PM.
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      • #48
        five.five-six
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2006
        • 34887

        It sounds like a bad shoot to me but I really don’t have enough information to make a call on it. Crowded store with lots of people for a backstop, shot both the parents too…. Sounds bad but I’m willing to accept new information that could change my opinion.

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        • #49
          StuckInTheP.R.O.Ca
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 2995

          Originally posted by M1NM
          So even though each was only shot once the crime gets an enhancement because the shooter had the opportunity to shoot him over 10 times. Guess I'll start carrying a 8 shot revolver.
          Following the shooting, police said that Kenneth was shot once in the shoulder and three times in the back, while his mother, Paola, was shot in the back and her husband, Russell, was shot in the abdomen, resulting in the loss of a kidney.
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          • #50
            pacrat
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2014
            • 10285

            Initial statements made at the time. ASSUREDLY did not show cop to be truthful. French did NOT hit him in the back of the head in a surprise attack. As the cop claimed.

            The video clearly shows a scuffle between them BEFORE French hit him with a LEFT from the Front. While cop was facing him, and likely [not sure] while the cop was holding his shirt. Because when the cop went down, after the punch, he pulled French to the floor with him.



            Action starts @ 17 sec. ... scuffle, scuffle, scuffle.

            Cop goes down at 25 sec. When French hit him. Pulling French with him.

            Seconds after both went down cop fired first shot.

            At 37 sec. Mrs French rushes to her son, with back to cop, who is still on floor.

            At 39 sec. Cop shot Mom in BACK. Who then drops to floor.

            Vid "appears" show cop still shooting at 41 sec. [Maybe] not sure that's when the Dad was shot.

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            • #51
              ohsmily
              Calguns Addict
              • Apr 2005
              • 8963

              Originally posted by pacrat
              Initial statements made at the time. ASSUREDLY did not show cop to be truthful. French did NOT hit him in the back of the head in a surprise attack. As the cop claimed.

              The video clearly shows a scuffle between them BEFORE French hit him with a LEFT from the Front. While cop was facing him, and likely [not sure] while the cop was holding his shirt. Because when the cop went down, after the punch, he pulled French to the floor with him.



              Action starts @ 17 sec. ... scuffle, scuffle, scuffle.

              Cop goes down at 25 sec. When French hit him. Pulling French with him.

              Seconds after both went down cop fired first shot.

              At 37 sec. Mrs French rushes to her son, with back to cop, who is still on floor.

              At 39 sec. Cop shot Mom in BACK. Who then drops to floor.

              Vid "appears" show cop still shooting at 41 sec. [Maybe] not sure that's when the Dad was shot.
              Excellent breakdown except it is totally wrong according to narration by the father and various news reports.
              The two struggling are kid and dad; dad trying to shield son.
              Last edited by ohsmily; 08-09-2021, 10:17 PM.
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              • #52
                TrailerparkTrash
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                • Oct 2005
                • 4249

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                • #53
                  S.A.
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 2022

                  Originally posted by pacrat
                  Initial statements made at the time. ASSUREDLY did not show cop to be truthful. French did NOT hit him in the back of the head in a surprise attack. As the cop claimed.

                  The video clearly shows a scuffle between them BEFORE French hit him with a LEFT from the Front. While cop was facing him, and likely [not sure] while the cop was holding his shirt. Because when the cop went down, after the punch, he pulled French to the floor with him.



                  Action starts @ 17 sec. ... scuffle, scuffle, scuffle.

                  Cop goes down at 25 sec. When French hit him. Pulling French with him.

                  Seconds after both went down cop fired first shot.

                  At 37 sec. Mrs French rushes to her son, with back to cop, who is still on floor.

                  At 39 sec. Cop shot Mom in BACK. Who then drops to floor.

                  Vid "appears" show cop still shooting at 41 sec. [Maybe] not sure that's when the Dad was shot.
                  The two that are scuffling, the red shirt and yellow dark horizontal stripes shirt is dad and son (just before they got shot)
                  I’m hoping more better video of the incident is released to public
                  Last edited by S.A.; 08-10-2021, 3:47 AM.

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                  • #54
                    pacrat
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2014
                    • 10285

                    Originally posted by ohsmily
                    Excellent breakdown except it is totally wrong according to narration by the father and various news reports.
                    The two struggling are kid and dad; dad trying to shield son.
                    If kid and dad, where is cop? Still behind the big display on left? That would support witnesses accounts that cop was 20 ft from kid, when he "opened fire". And also further discredit cops account.

                    You can believe whomever you want. Because the supposed "reports" are all over the place. Some witnesses state that French was 20 ft away when cop opened fire. But cop claimed he was standing over him with a gun in his hand. Even more specific, in his LAPD investigation, according to one account. He stated "small black handgun, like a Ruger LCR".



                    Sanchez later told LAPD investigators that he thought he had been shot and believed he saw French still pointing a gun at him and his son, he told investigators. He pulled out his own gun and fired twice.

                    Sanchez claimed to investigators.

                    , sending off a total of 10 rounds into the store full of shoppers.
                    Look at all the available pics of French and Dad. Son is almost a head taller than his Dad. Vid shows 2 scuffling to be about same stature.

                    This TH [talking head] clip seems to support your opinion at 1:30. And if incorrect OK, I stand corrected.



                    Which brings further likely condemnation of Cop's Rambo act. In above quote he claims he fired 4 rounds. 2 and 2 at French. But he actually sprayed 10 rounds, and shot the parents also. Without EVER SEEING THEM, by his own account. Damn lucky he didn't shoot any other "bystanders" that he didn't even see.

                    EVERYTHING about this cop fails to ring true. EVEN the photo op in a hospital bed after the fact. Playing the victim. Even though nobody, including EMTs at scene, could find any injury.

                    Hopefully now that there will for sure be an open court hearing. Actual Verified Facts can be determined. When cop has his day in court.

                    Parents going after LAPD is just a "deep pockets" hail mary. Municipal jurisdictions should not be held responsible for ANY employees that are Not in Service during a F'up.

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                    • #55
                      Bert Gamble
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 3230

                      Originally posted by golfish
                      So sad......

                      I read assault with a semiautomatic firearm
                      There are different charges for Semi Auto?
                      I think assault with a muzzle loader typically involves being hit with the stock.
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                      • #56
                        five.five-six
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2006
                        • 34887

                        The only thing that video proves is that you should NEVER but a surveillance system from Costco. Those cameras suck giant donkey balls.

                        Originally posted by pacrat
                        Initial statements made at the time. ASSUREDLY did not show cop to be truthful. French did NOT hit him in the back of the head in a surprise attack. As the cop claimed.

                        The video clearly shows a scuffle between them BEFORE French hit him with a LEFT from the Front. While cop was facing him, and likely [not sure] while the cop was holding his shirt. Because when the cop went down, after the punch, he pulled French to the floor with him.



                        Action starts @ 17 sec. ... scuffle, scuffle, scuffle.

                        Cop goes down at 25 sec. When French hit him. Pulling French with him.

                        Seconds after both went down cop fired first shot.

                        At 37 sec. Mrs French rushes to her son, with back to cop, who is still on floor.

                        At 39 sec. Cop shot Mom in BACK. Who then drops to floor.

                        Vid "appears" show cop still shooting at 41 sec. [Maybe] not sure that's when the Dad was shot.

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                        • #57
                          leopardrider
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2021
                          • 21

                          Hope this Officer gets the right jail time for his crimes, cruel and heartless people like him don't deserve a place in our society.

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                          • #58
                            RandyD
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 6673

                            I am going to withhold judgment until the trial is over. The court of public opinion has spoken, and I clearly see the arguments of both the prosecutor and the defendant. Now its time for a court of law, where statements are given under oath, each side has an opportunity to cross-examine witnesses, each side has the opportunity to introduce evidence and each side has the opportunity to offer their arguments as to how they want the jury to see the evidence. Each side is going to need a skilled attorney. I believe that the courtroom skills of an attorney are going to be the deciding factor.
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                            • #59
                              sfvshooter
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 1200

                              Originally posted by OCEquestrian
                              Total parental FAIL! The dead kids parents shouldn't have had an unpredictable, mentally ill / sick and physically violent kid out interreacting with the general public.

                              "French’s parents, Russell and Paola, said their son had been diagnosed with schizophrenia ...my son is sick."
                              Seems harsh. Unless their son had a history of violence, why would they be expected to keep him locked up in the house?

                              And why wasn't there this level of parent blaming when a teenager with an illegally acquired rifle crossed state lines and killed 2 people?
                              Too many rifles, not enough time...

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                              • #60
                                morrcarr67
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 15035

                                Just sharing a story that I feel everyone should know about.
                                Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                                Originally posted by Erion929

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