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  • #31
    steelholder
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 3327

    Everyone thinks they're low key by buying these.

    ATF : Fine, we'll just take your sales records, thanks.
    WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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    • #32
      Whiskey_Tango
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2014
      • 1588

      Fuggers.

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      • #33
        anthonyca
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2008
        • 6316

        Kamala proved that she could get a bunch of cops to confiscate guns and with a show of force, nobody fought back. Think about it, those were prohibited people who had committed crimes, often of violence. Many of them had nothing to lose and still handed over the guns, often a tool of thier trade, with no fight. What is a guy with a family who has never broken a law goimg to do?

        Nobody is going to do anything but ***** and comply.
        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Union...70812799700206

        Originally posted by Wherryj
        I am a physician. I am held to being "the expert" in medicine. I can't fall back on feigned ignorance and the statement that the patient should have known better than I. When an officer "can't be expected to know the entire penal code", but a citizen is held to "ignorance is no excuse", this is equivalent to ME being able to sue my patient for my own malpractice-after all, the patient should have known better, right?

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        • #34
          FightYouRightNow
          Member
          • Jun 2016
          • 431

          Originally posted by Monterey Gun
          First, I've heard of this. I've got a few 80% builds myself. This is crap.
          umm, builds?

          1607641172539.jpg
          "Christ Almighty, it's like I'm sitting here playing cards with my brother's kids or something" - Johnny Tyler

          Everyone remain calm, we're only dealing with first world problems, women, alcohol, and firearms.

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          • #35
            edgerly779
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Aug 2009
            • 19871

            80% polymer builds in Ca almost impossible because of 3.7 ounce stainless plate. Metallic 80% ok if pistol must be single shot. Follow the procedures.

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            • #36
              Medics197
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 582

              NRA Life Of Duty Member

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              • #37
                DesertDave100
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 547

                This article makes it sound like it was a District of Columbia legality issue.

                According to an article originally published in the Washington Post, federal agents of the ATF (Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) raided Lyon County based Polymer80, a company accused of illegally manufacturing and distributing firearms, failing to pay taxes, shipping guns across state lines, and failing to conduct background investigations. According to a press release issued by District of Columbia Attorney General Karl A. Racine in June of 2020, a lawsuit was filed against Polymer80 for selling what are described as “ghost guns.”
                NRA Life Member CRPA Life Member

                Registration is the first step towards confiscation.

                I identify as Non-Bidenary

                Originally posted by Kurgan
                This is OT where we never let the facts get in the way of a salacious accusation. Especially when it includes the butt.

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                • #38
                  Usmc0844spare
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 1318

                  I thankfully don't have a dog in this hunt, but is there any info ANYWHERE that points to this being legit. Regardless of what CA has to say about it, is there some:

                  - evidence that federally speaking, these 80% receivers, ain't truly 80%

                  or

                  - existing law that says that combining their sale with other components makes them non-80% somehow?

                  Take CA angle out of this, what if any federal laws might be being broken here?

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                  • #39
                    ThePlinker
                    Member
                    • Dec 2018
                    • 176

                    Saw plenty for sale at Phoenix gun show last weekend.

                    Stuff like this should always be FTF and cash.

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                    • #40
                      Quickdraw559
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 1890

                      Originally posted by DesertDave100
                      This article makes it sound like it was a District of Columbia legality issue.

                      https://www.carsonnow.org/story/12/1...among-other-fe
                      It does indeed. Nonetheless, calguns FUD always tastes so good.

                      The District of Columbia Office of the Attorney General alleged in their lawsuit that Polymer80 violated multiple aspects of the Consumer Protection Procedures Act, including the following:
                      * Falsely claiming its firearms are legal in the District: Polymer80 informs District consumers on its website that because their guns are not fully assembled, they are not considered firearms under federal law and can be legally sold, distributed, and possessed. The Polymer80 website’s homepage asks, “Is it legal?” and responds “YES!” However, Polymer80’s guns are considered firearms under District law. Though District consumers can easily purchase a Polymer80 firearm online, the company does not inform them that they are violating District law upon receipt of the firearm.
                      * Failing to disclose it is not licensed to sell firearms in the District: To legally sell firearms in the District, merchants must obtain a commercial license. Not only does Polymer80 not possess that license, it is prohibited from obtaining one because it sells assault weapons, specifically AR-15 and .308 semi-automatic rifles, which cannot be registered in the District.
                      * Selling firearms that violate numerous District gun safety laws: District law prohibits the sale or possession of semi-automatic rifles, but Polymer80 sells this type of weapon to District consumers. District law prohibits merchants from offering or selling firearms which lack a unique manufacturer’s number or serial number, or a unique dealer’s identification number, but all Polymer80 firearms lack that information. District law imposes mandatory 10-day waiting periods on firearm purchases, but Polymer80 also does not comply with this requirement. Additionally, District law prohibits any individual from possessing a firearm unless that person obtains a registration certificate, but Polymer80 does not inform consumers of that fact.
                      WTB Oakhurst stamped CZ firearms
                      WTB 12 gauge Wingmasters

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                      • #41
                        Jaysol33
                        Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 260

                        ATF raided Polymer 80

                        Just happened, not good.

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                        • #42
                          deckhandmike
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 8325

                          Triple dupe

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                          • #43
                            Jaysol33
                            Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 260

                            Originally posted by deckhandmike
                            Triple dupe
                            Oops, I apologize for that. Thanks

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                            • #44
                              edgerly779
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 19871

                              I built a bunch of 80% over the years and registered them now I am done with anymore 80% unless I move to Texas. I still have 1911 and ar jigs and tooling.

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                              • #45
                                WarBoyNux
                                • Jul 2015
                                • 1267

                                Link to dupe?

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