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  • #46
    Citadelgrad87
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2007
    • 16961

    Originally posted by ScottsBad
    If someone doesn't see the value in paying $1200 it won't sell. The value of anything is set by the buyer. If the market won't buy a used Glock for $1200, it will go unsold. Or, the seller will lower the price until someone thinks the value is good from the buyer's perspective.

    If I don't have a gun and the mob is coming down my street burning homes and killing people, $1200 bucks is a freaking bargain for a used Glock, just make sure you have plenty of ammo.

    I do not see the problem here. Unless, you are advocating for a third party to monitor all transaction to ensure its a "fair" value. But, that would be...socialism. Maybe you're for that?

    Or, why not go one step farther; Why not have a third party forcibly take the overpriced Glock (because the owner already has a gun) and give it to someone else who needs it more? Oh wait, that would be communism.

    The "invisible hand" of the market is what capitalism is all about. And it is the best system yet devised.



    It's funny, people constantly over-value the stuff they sell in the CG Marketplace anyway. Everyone seems to think their item is precious. But if it doesn't sell they have lost opportunity cost (they can't use the money tied up in that thing for anything else).

    Some people on the Marketplace, keep bumping their stuff for weeks and months, without lowering the price. They either don't really want to sell it badly, or they are willing to leave it out there like stale bait hoping they might get a bite. LOL
    Originally posted by tony270
    It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
    Originally posted by repubconserv
    Print it out and frame it for all I care
    Originally posted by el chivo
    I don't need to think at all..
    Originally posted by pjsig
    You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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    • #47
      Robert1234
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2006
      • 3080

      Originally posted by 71MUSTY
      You are really just mad at yourself because you did not buy a new one when you could. My 1969 Mach I sold for under $4000 new, should I be required to sell it for less then that because it's used??
      Yes! To me!

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      • #48
        Citadelgrad87
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Mar 2007
        • 16961

        Originally posted by ScottsBad
        It doesn't matter what it is or what value it has to you, it only matters what someone will pay for it.

        Unless some one is directly controlling the cost it is the free market at work.

        You could say that COVID has disrupted the demand/supply mechanism because Glock (and other manufacturers) and its supply chain have been disrupted/slowed. But that is also part of the free market.
        Originally posted by tony270
        It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
        Originally posted by repubconserv
        Print it out and frame it for all I care
        Originally posted by el chivo
        I don't need to think at all..
        Originally posted by pjsig
        You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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        • #49
          Prepped and ready
          • Jun 2013
          • 951

          Damn capitalist taking advantage of a product thats low in stocck and high in demand.

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          • #50
            MrFancyPants
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 1160

            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
            I fail to understand NOTHING about how capitalism works. You appear to, though.
            Yeah ya do, it's clear in your response. I'm not the one here *****ing about the price of used guns because due to an unprecedented lack of supply, demand has skyrocketed and they're currently selling for a premium. That's how it works, but you apparently don't support the free market concept, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem for you. Or maybe you're just angry that you're not on the winning side of the market this time. Whatever it is, socialist ideals are not well received here, and certainly not by me.

            And yes, we ARE in a free market. Always have been. Even if the prices aren't low enough for you.

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            • #51
              -hanko
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2002
              • 14174

              The seller can ask for anything he wants. If it's too expensive for you, just move along instead of posting your thoughts.


              Originally posted by plumbum
              I just want to know what Jacque-off bought that 1984 Toyota hilux for $30k...
              You need to get familiar with Toyota pricing. A clean '84 HiLux will go in the $25-35K range. Parts are still available, they'll take you anywhere AND get your back.
              True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

              Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

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              • #52
                Rocklander97
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2016
                • 730

                Originally posted by MrFancyPants
                Yeah ya do, it's clear in your response. I'm not the one here *****ing about the price of used guns because due to an unprecedented lack of supply, demand has skyrocketed and they're currently selling for a premium. That's how it works, but you apparently don't support the free market concept, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem for you. Or maybe you're just angry that you're not on the winning side of the market this time. Whatever it is, socialist ideals are not well received here, and certainly not by me.

                And yes, we ARE in a free market. Always have been. Even if the prices aren't low enough for you.

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                • #53
                  Citadelgrad87
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 16961

                  Originally posted by MrFancyPants
                  Yeah ya do, it's clear in your response. I'm not the one here *****ing about the price of used guns because due to an unprecedented lack of supply, demand has skyrocketed and they're currently selling for a premium. That's how it works, but you apparently don't support the free market concept, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem for you. Or maybe you're just angry that you're not on the winning side of the market this time. Whatever it is, socialist ideals are not well received here, and certainly not by me.

                  And yes, we ARE in a free market. Always have been. Even if the prices aren't low enough for you.

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                  Originally posted by tony270
                  It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                  Originally posted by repubconserv
                  Print it out and frame it for all I care
                  Originally posted by el chivo
                  I don't need to think at all..
                  Originally posted by pjsig
                  You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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                  • #54
                    Citadelgrad87
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 16961

                    Originally posted by MrFancyPants
                    Yeah ya do, it's clear in your response. I'm not the one here *****ing about the price of used guns because due to an unprecedented lack of supply, demand has skyrocketed and they're currently selling for a premium. That's how it works, but you apparently don't support the free market concept, otherwise it wouldn't be a problem for you. Or maybe you're just angry that you're not on the winning side of the market this time. Whatever it is, socialist ideals are not well received here, and certainly not by me.

                    And yes, we ARE in a free market. Always have been. Even if the prices aren't low enough for you.

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                    Its clearly NOT a free market, and he has no idea what he is talking about. The roster and ppt alone eliminate any semblance of a free market.

                    But apparently he is on a roll, as he thinks i have socialist ideals.

                    Wow.
                    Originally posted by tony270
                    It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                    Originally posted by repubconserv
                    Print it out and frame it for all I care
                    Originally posted by el chivo
                    I don't need to think at all..
                    Originally posted by pjsig
                    You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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                    • #55
                      MarikinaMan
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 4864

                      Nope. I have better things to think about.

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                      • #56
                        oakdalecurtis
                        Junior Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 84

                        I guess the OP has never owned a nice classic car.....

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                        • #57
                          squeeze
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1338

                          Originally posted by The War Wagon
                          But they're SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAB-U-LOUS!!!

                          Kool! Can I get it with whitewalls? OH; and a big pair of dice hang from the mirror too? Mary Kay would be soooooo proud.

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                          • #58
                            MrFancyPants
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 1160

                            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                            The prices are plenty low enough for me, i got my G 19 for $500 otd last year, i dont need another one.
                            And yet here you are, complaining that the price of a used Glock is more than retail. If you already have what you want, then there's no need to worry or complain about what they're selling for now. Why do you care so much what others want to ask for their gear? That's their business, and if you don't want to engage in business with them, just move along.

                            And FYI, apparently you need to look up the definition of what a "free market" is. Here let me help you:



                            The free market is an economic system based on supply and demand with little or no government control. It is a summary description of all voluntary exchanges that take place in a given economic environment. Free markets are characterized by a spontaneous and decentralized order of arrangements through which individuals make economic decisions.
                            In CA, your ability to buy firearms and market price is based on supply and demand, just like every other commodity, including cars and houses, which also fluctuate in value based on market conditions. Every CA resident is free to decide to buy or sell any legally owned firearm to anybody else legally allowed to purchase it, at any time, and at any price. You can ask for $50, $500, or $50,000 dollars for a used Glock, and you're free to do so. No government agency is telling you no, you can't sell it for that much, you can only sell it for $x.xx and you can only sell it on Friday. Likewise, anybody else is free to pay whatever price they deem appropriate. Yeah you have to operate within the confines of CA law, but that's no different than any other state and has no bearing on the state of the free market. I have to operate within the confines of UT law. You don't like the limitations placed on you by CA law? Move. It ain't rocket science.

                            You're clearly just really butthurt about the current market conditions, and well it is what it is. I don't understand why some of you guys have such a hard time just butting out of everybody else's business and minding your own. You just HAVE to post in threads griping about the cost of a used Glock. I mean how often do these threads pop up? Good grief, it's embarrassing. Are you also griping in the real estate threads about guys selling their house for $50k over asking? I mean shame on them for accepting a highly lucrative offer for their own property from another party willing to pay a premium in a hot market.

                            Originally posted by oakdalecurtis
                            I guess the OP has never owned a nice classic car.....
                            Be careful, you'll get chided by the price police for "cherry picking" a classic car example, even though it's just another commodity bought and sold according to the same free market principles. I own 2 classics and anybody who would expect me to sell either one for less than what I paid for them is high on oxygen.
                            Last edited by MrFancyPants; 09-14-2020, 6:57 AM.

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                            • #59
                              Bull Elk
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 4205

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                              • #60
                                Citadelgrad87
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 16961

                                Originally posted by MrFancyPants
                                And yet here you are, complaining that the price of a used Glock is more than retail. If you already have what you want, then there's no need to worry or complain about what they're selling for now. Why do you care so much what others want to ask for their gear? That's their business, and if you don't want to engage in business with them, just move along.

                                And FYI, apparently you need to look up the definition of what a "free market" is. Here let me help you:





                                In CA, your ability to buy firearms and market price is based on supply and demand, just like every other commodity, including cars and houses, which also fluctuate in value based on market conditions. Every CA resident is free to decide to buy or sell any legally owned firearm to anybody else legally allowed to purchase it, at any time, and at any price. You can ask for $50, $500, or $50,000 dollars for a used Glock, and you're free to do so. No government agency is telling you no, you can't sell it for that much, you can only sell it for $x.xx and you can only sell it on Friday. Likewise, anybody else is free to pay whatever price they deem appropriate. Yeah you have to operate within the confines of CA law, but that's no different than any other state and has no bearing on the state of the free market. I have to operate within the confines of UT law. You don't like the limitations placed on you by CA law? Move. It ain't rocket science.

                                You're clearly just really butthurt about the current market conditions, and well it is what it is. I don't understand why some of you guys have such a hard time just butting out of everybody else's business and minding your own. You just HAVE to post in threads griping about the cost of a used Glock. I mean how often do these threads pop up? Good grief, it's embarrassing. Are you also griping in the real estate threads about guys selling their house for $50k over asking? I mean shame on them for accepting a highly lucrative offer for their own property from another party willing to pay a premium in a hot market.



                                Be careful, you'll get chided by the price police for "cherry picking" a classic car example, even though it's just another commodity bought and sold according to the same free market principles. I own 2 classics and anybody who would expect me to sell either one for less than what I paid for them is high on oxygen.
                                The free market is an economic system based on supply and demand with little or no government control.

                                Fail. Did you not see that part, or are you too proud to admit your own source destroys your....argument. The roster alone obliterates your simplistic, childlike mantra. Its NOT a free market.

                                Why do shallow thinkers, like you, not see the hypocrisy in “mind your own business”?. You demand, over and over, that i mind my own business, yet your demand that i do so is your attempt to tell ME what to do. Its none of YOUR business what i think or say about anything. It doesnt concern you, but you are too simplistic to understand that your insistence that i “mind [my] own business” is exactly what you pretend to sneer about in me.

                                Go get a clue.
                                Last edited by Citadelgrad87; 09-14-2020, 7:38 AM.
                                Originally posted by tony270
                                It's easy to be a keyboard warrior, you would melt like wax in front of me, you wouldn't be able to move your lips.
                                Originally posted by repubconserv
                                Print it out and frame it for all I care
                                Originally posted by el chivo
                                I don't need to think at all..
                                Originally posted by pjsig
                                You are talking to someone who already won this lame conversation, not a brick a wall. Too bad you don't realize it.
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