ammo background check experiences

[smle-man]

Any statistics yet on how many criminals have been busted trying to illegally buy ammo because of the background check? And if someone does come up as a person prohibited from buying ammo does the DOJ prosecute?

[giaking70]

Yes there is, was published yesterday by the LA Times that supposedly the new law has stopped 100 sales. I tried copying the link but here's the article itself....
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California blocked more than 100 felons and other prohibited persons from buying ammunition in the last month using a new law requiring background checks, the state attorney general said Monday.

The new figures were released just days after*mass shootings in California, Texas and Ohio*that left 34 people dead and dozens of others injured.

Atty. Gen. Xavier Becerra reported the numbers to a federal judge in arguing against an injunction sought by gun owner rights groups to block the law requiring background checks, which was approved by voters in Proposition 63 and through legislation.

“The evidence shows that, in the absence of eligibility checks like the ones challenged here, prohibited persons regularly purchase ammunition from unwitting vendors,” said the written brief filed late Monday in federal court in San Diego.

The*law that took effect July 1*prevents ammo purchases by customers at gun shops if they cannot show they have a registered firearm or are on a list of felons or severely mentally ill, thus are disqualified from possessing guns.

“California has a substantial interest in increasing public safety and preventing crime, and the Ammunition Eligibility Check Laws, which prevent convicted felons and other prohibited persons from purchasing ammunition, is a reasonable fit to address that interest,” Becerra said in the filing.

The state made the claim as it fights a*lawsuit by the California Rifle and Pistol Assn.,*the state affiliate of the National Rifle Assn., that is seeking to block enforcement of the new background checks for ammo purchasers.

Sean Brady, an attorney for the gun groups, said the state’s filing also shows that some 10,000 other ammunition purchases were not immediately approved during the first month, which he says indicates glitches in the system impacting law-abiding gun owners.

Gun shop owners say many of the other denials may be people eligible to buy ammo but whose names on their driver’s licenses do not exactly match gun registration records.

Becerra and Gov. Gavin Newsom told reporters Monday that they are hopeful the law will survive the court challenge.

“We are going to fight like the dickens,” Newsom said. “We are confident that we will prevail.” He said that the law requiring background checks for ammunition buyers is needed because guns alone don’t kill people. “Guns require a dangerous component: That’s ammunition.”

The request for an injunction was filed last month in federal court by the California Rifle and Pistol Assn., and argued that the background checks have created mass confusion and unconstitutional burden on law-abiding gun owners.

“While making sure dangerous people do not obtain weapons is a laudable goal for government, California’s scheme goes too far and must be enjoined,” the injunction request argues. “California ammunition vendors have reported as high as 60% of people who undergo California’s background check do not pass.”
The law took effect July 1.

“California’s scheme imposes severe burdens on exercising the right to acquire ammunition, including effectively barring some from acquiring ammunition necessary to exercise their right to armed defense at all,” the gun group argued to the federal court.

The law challenged with the injunction filing also requires Californians buying ammunition from out of state on the internet or at gun shows to have it shipped to a licensed vendor in California where background check is required.

The injunction request was added to an earlier lawsuit by plaintiffs including Olympic medalist shooter Kim Rhode seeking to have the entire law tossed out.

The court filing by Becerra comes just days after a gunman in Dayton, Ohio, killed nine people, an attacker in El Paso, Texas, killed 22 and a 19-year-old armed with an AK-47-style rifle in Gilroy, Calif., killed three.

Meanwhile, a state lawmaker on Monday reacted to three mass shootings in the previous week by saying he plans to introduce a new tax on ammunition purchased in California to pay for an expansion of violence prevention programs.

Assemblyman Marc Levine (D-San Rafael ) said he will add the bullet tax to a bill he plans to revive that would also set a $25 tax on the sale of handguns and semiautomatic rifles sold in California. The tax revenue would go to grants to local programs that seek to reduce violence in communities where gun crimes are common.

“We are not helpless or hopeless when it comes to ending gun terror in the United States,” Levine said. “A $25 tax on firearms is a small amount for gun owners to pay to stem the tragic violence guns inflict on innocent Californians and will create a permanent and desperately needed funding source to reduce gun violence in our state.”

That's the article, again sorry it wouldnt let my copy the link...

[alpha_romeo_XV]

Made my 1st attempt yesterday at buying a box of ammo since the new background check went into affect 5 weeks ago.
Went to Turners and the take a number line was too long. Left after 5 minutes of still being 5th in line.
Went to Big5 and they did not have any clerks authorized to run the new system. Shelves full of ammo though.
Went to small LGS and got it done in a couple minutes. Just needed my CA DL. I did learn there is first a form to sign and it does the background check. Then a second DROS form to sign for each caliber you're purchasing. Only a single $1 fee for the whole purchase no matter how boxes or calibers.

[sigstroker]

Felt kind of like what I would imagine buying a firearm in a free state would feel like. That is -like an instant background check.

Not even. In some states there's no background check at all if you have a CCW.

[Crazy4Guns]

Just went to Walmart to buy some ammo and was denied. I have the older license without the Federal limits apply and they said they couldn't sell to me without a birth certificate because my license doesn't have the star and bear. Is this true or do they not know the law?

[CheapBloke]

Bought ammo from Big 5 Irvine on Alton couple days ago. Expensive compared to others, but had gift card.
Used my older CA license (not Real ID, not Fed Limit). Check was complete in 5 minutes, and the guy forgot to charge me extra $1.

[SoCalZen]

ammo background check experiences

Just went to Walmart to buy some ammo and was denied. I have the older license without the Federal limits apply and they said they couldn't sell to me without a birth certificate because my license doesn't have the star and bear. Is this true or do they not know the law?

[Crazy4Guns]

I tried explain to him that you didn't need extra verification if your license doesn't have the Federal limits apply but he was set in his way and told me I did. I let him know my displeasure and left. I'm going to try my local gun store later today and try to buy some ammo.

[czshooter]

I bought ammo for the first time since the change at Turners in Pasadena. it was not too bad. It did take a while for the computer to boot up and for me to sign the "background check" in triplicate. Seems like a waste of time for the vendors to go through all that paperwork. I do have the real ID. Thanks California.

[abinsinia]

Found this yesterday,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgqlxMtodt8

Seems like a typical situation.

[Crazy4Guns]

Just an update from my previous post. After being denied purchasing ammo from Walmart for not having a birth certificate to go with my old style license that does not have the federal limits apply, I went to my local gun shop. Half of the workers there said I needed a birth certificate like Walmart said and the other half said I didn't. They processed my ammo purchase anyways but now I'm even more confused. It just tells you how messed up this stupid law is that nobody knows exactly what to do.

[SDCarpenter]

I've picked up ammo several times now, and it's always painless and less then 30 seconds

[CheapBloke]

Just an update from my previous post. After being denied purchasing ammo from Walmart for not having a birth certificate to go with my old style license that does not have the federal limits apply, I went to my local gun shop. Half of the workers there said I needed a birth certificate like Walmart said and the other half said I didn't. They processed my ammo purchase anyways but now I'm even more confused. It just tells you how messed up this stupid law is that nobody knows exactly what to do.

The store manager from Big 5 I picked up ammo from said, everyone that sells ammo, and doesn't know the new ammo laws, what is needed are noobs, and shouldn't be selling ammo. Lol. That was funny. The guy took my ID, went into back room, came out few times within 5 mins and said you're good to go and having me sign the dros paper thingy.
If their ammo prices were a lil bit more competitive, I'd be going to that Big 5 everytime.

[AnchorTactical]

Bought 1k rounds at Turner’s this week. It took about 2 minutes.

I don’t like it, but what’re you gonna do?

[painkiller]

I got denied this morning while doing a ppt,hope to hell the ppt goes good,i havent bought a firearm in about 3 years,spent the gap reloading.hope this doesn't have any effect on my dros.guy said probably the address issue as they dont match