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That's probably what will happen, but we have a different SCOTUS now, and they've recently decide to hear it's first gun case in years, so that's a good sign. In fact we have a different 9th circuit, still super liberal, but a little less liberal than itywas 2yrs ago.Comment
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This is different than CCW because that takes months and must go through the government.
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Originally posted by KWalkerMeh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.Comment
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Benitez described three home invasions, two of which ended with the female victims running out of bullets.
In the third case, the pajama-clad woman with a high-capacity magazine took on three armed intruders, firing at them while simultaneously calling for help on her phone.
"She had no place to carry an extra magazine and no way to reload because her left hand held the phone with which she was still trying to call 911," the judge wrote, saying she killed one attacker while two escaped.
He ruled that magazines holding more than 10 rounds are "arms" under the U.S. Constitution, and that the California law "burdens the core of the Second Amendment by criminalizing the acquisition and possession of these magazines that are commonly held by law-abiding citizens for defense of self, home, and state."Comment
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NO you can't.
This is great news, but as at least a few people have already pointed out, NO, this means nothing for the next year or two, or three. This ruling will be held until appealed to a 3 judge panel at the 9th Circuit, THEN held pending En-Banc, THEN held pending SCOTUS. There is NO WAY that the 9th Circuit will let us buy 10+ mags while they decide if the Benitez ruling is correct. In the unlikely event that we actually win the 3 judge panel, it will be held pending En Banc, etc. There is no way this won't go all the way to SCOTUS.
This is a great ruling, but all it means is that the status quo remains unchanged: you cant buy mags over 10 rounds, but you don't have to get rid of the 10+ rounders you owned before 2000.Last edited by mit31; 03-29-2019, 5:02 PM.06/29/21 App Received
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So a trip to AZ with a box truck and Amex Platinum card is premature at this point?Folks - I know everyone has a LOT of questions about the practical effects of this ruling. Please give us time to study it and we will put out a bulletin on the practical effects next week. We will review the questions posted here, and all the others we are getting, and try to answer them all. Meanwhile, have a beer tonight and be thankful that there are still judges who "get it" and respect the 2A! Oh, and join the NRA and CRPA. They they are funding this and a whole bunch of other 2A cases. They aren't perfect, but they are the best there is. And wha da ya want for $35 bucks anyway?!
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I hope this means I can buy some now, want to get some before Ca bans them again.https://thedeplorablepatriot.com/
"A Holocaust survivor dies of old age, when he gets to heaven he tells God a Holocaust joke. God says, That isn't funny. The Old man tells God, well, I guess you had to be there."Comment
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Judge's ruling is as of today. Until there is an injunction on his ruling why isn't it fair game?NO you can't.
This is great news, but as at least a few people have already pointed out, NO, this means nothing for the next year or two, or three. This ruling will be held until appealed to a 3 judge panel at the 9th Circuit, THEN held pending En-Banc, THEN held pending SCOTUS. There is NO WAY that the 9th Circuit will let us buy 10+ mags while they decide if the Benitez ruling is correct.
This is a great ruling, but all it means is that the status quo remains unchanged: you cant buy mags over 10 rounds, but you don't have to get rid of the 10+ rounders you owned before 2000.Comment
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You are a bit out over your skis on your interpretation. Unless and until the CA-DoJ gets a stay entered, Judge Benitez's ruling holds. I would be surprised if CA-DoJ is not able to get the 9th Circus to issue a stay, but for right now, it is no longer a felony to import magazines with a capacity > 10 rounds. Getting a store to sell you a magazine with a capacity > 10 rounds is another matter, as the stores are risk-averse and don't want to get caught up in an issue that is still fluid.NO you can't.
This is great news, but as at least a few people have already pointed out, NO, this means nothing for the next year or two, or three. This ruling will be held until appealed to a 3 judge panel at the 9th Circuit, THEN held pending En-Banc, THEN held pending SCOTUS. There is NO WAY that the 9th Circuit will let us buy 10+ mags while they decide if the Benitez ruling is correct. In the unlikely event that we actually win the 3 judge panel, it will be held pending En Banc, etc. There is no way this won't go all the way to SCOTUS.
This is a great ruling, but all it means is that the status quo remains unchanged: you cant buy mags over 10 rounds, but you don't have to get rid of the 10+ rounders you owned before 2000.Comment
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Newsom's anti-gun crusade hilariously backfired on him by actually reducing our state's gun control laws from what we had before he started. This is awesome.Comment
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"Over my skis?" That's a new one. How comfortable would you be as one of the people that buy a mag during one of the single digit days between this order and the stay that we KNOW is coming? Especially prior to Becerra certifying that he has notified all law enforcement in the state that it is allowed? I would not be (assuming as you mentioned, you could find someone). People on here are acting like they think they can just cruise down to walmart next week and buy banana mags... how about we set some realistic expectations here?
You are a bit out over your skis on your interpretation. Unless and until the CA-DoJ gets a stay entered, Judge Benitez's ruling holds. I would be surprised if CA-DoJ is not able to get the 9th Circus to issue a stay, but for right now, it is no longer a felony to import magazines with a capacity > 10 rounds. Getting a store to sell you a magazine with a capacity > 10 rounds is another matter, as the stores are risk-averse and don't want to get caught up in an issue that is still fluid.Last edited by mit31; 03-29-2019, 5:17 PM.06/29/21 App Received
07/29/21 Check Cashed
04/22/22 Livescan CA/FBI Cleared
05/17/22 Interview
07/26/22 Livescan Firearms Cleared
08/08/22 Proceed to Training Email
12/30/22 Training Sent
01/02/23 Training Received
03/17/23 Call for Pick Up
04/20/23 Pick Up DateComment
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Very"Over my skis?" That's a new one. How comfortable would you be as one of the people that buy a mag during one of the single digit days between this order and the stay that we KNOW is coming? Especially prior to Becerra certifying that he has notified all law enforcement in the state that it is allowed? I would not be (assuming as you mentioned, you could find someone).Comment
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You must work at Optics Planet."Over my skis?" That's a new one. How comfortable would you be as one of the people that buy a mag during one of the single digit days between this order and the stay that we KNOW is coming? Especially prior to Becerra certifying that he has notified all law enforcement in the state that it is allowed? I would not be (assuming as you mentioned, you could find someone).Comment
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If I paid cash, I'd be perfectly comfortable, why not?Comment
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