Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Doctors Office

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • #61
    R Dale
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2015
    • 1736

    Originally posted by AregularGuy
    This year Kaiser announced a $2 million initiative to study gun violence. They say they are going to study it like any other disease, scientifically, with propr research. They send out blurbs occasionally in company newsletters. Not sure I trust it. BUT if they really do a proper job I would be interested in the results. Will prove what we already know if they are honest about it.
    Two mil gone down the drain, first of they need to study violence in general the tool used is not important.

    Comment

    • #62
      ChuckDizzle
      Banned
      • Dec 2013
      • 4398

      Originally posted by R Dale
      Two mil gone down the drain, first of they need to study violence in general the tool used is not important.
      Yes it is, you don't treat gunshot wounds the same as you do a stab wound or head injury.

      Comment

      • #63
        ChuckDizzle
        Banned
        • Dec 2013
        • 4398

        Originally posted by Dragunov
        A firearm is always within quick reach in my house. When family is visiting with kids, they are laying on the bed, in a room that is locked with a quick release that is too high for kids to reach, and one is behind the toilet tank, in a bathroom that kids aren't permitted to enter.

        The only time they're locked up, is when we're away from home, and my 120lb GSD is in the house. If we take the dog, we take the firearms too.
        Stop being paranoid.

        Comment

        • #64
          Dan_Eastvale
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Apr 2013
          • 10646

          Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
          Yes it is, you don't treat gunshot wounds the same as you do a stab wound or head injury.

          They aren't studying gun shot wounds.... Which is what a hospital and Doctors should do.... Since they treat the sick and injured...

          They are studying gun violence and yes a waste of 2 million... Their study will surely be evaluated and used by the anti 2A powers to be in CA.

          Stick to medicine and STOP trying to influence gun control policy which is none of their business...

          Comment

          • #65
            ChuckDizzle
            Banned
            • Dec 2013
            • 4398

            Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
            They aren't studying gun shot wounds.... Which is what a hospital and Doctors should do.... Since they treat the sick and injured...

            They are studying gun violence and yes a waste of 2 million... Their study will surely be evaluated and used by the anti 2A powers to be in CA.

            Stick to medicine and STOP trying to influence gun control policy which is none of their business...
            They are studying it like any other health risk. What makes you so nervous about that? Scared it might turn out that owning a gun increases the risk of being shot? Well of course it does, just like consuming alcohol increases risks for lots of things...I'm still going to drink and own guns, temperance league and Moms Demand be damned.

            If you lie about owning guns you only skew the results because they sure know the guy who accidentally shoots himself in the foot had a gun.

            Comment

            • #66
              Mayor McRifle
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2013
              • 7724

              If your physician asks you if you have a firearm, feel free to decline to answer. There’s no obligation to do so and, as demonstrated above, there are quite a few more likely causes of death on the horizon than your gun. If anything, your gun is your prescription to prevent homicide.
              Trusted concealed carry news, firearm laws, training tips, and self-defense education for responsible gun owners across America.



              A range of options is available to you, some sending a more powerful message than others. These are updated from DRGO’s original recommendations, since the medical profession has changed so much in the last two decades.

              1) Politely refuse to answer the doctor’s question or the health plan’s questionnaire item about guns. You can either explain your discomfort with the question or decline to give a reason.

              2) If the gun question(s) appears on your health plan’s routine health assessment questionnaire, file a formal written complaint with the health plan. Every health plan has a member complaint process, often prescribed by law. Your complaint will be registered and the health plan will respond.

              3) If the health plan responds with the excuse that their questions about your guns are standard medical practice that they must follow, you can take the complaint to the next step—file a written complaint with your state agency that regulates health plans. For example, in California you would follow the complaint procedure on the Department of Managed Health Care web site. It’s your right as a patient under California law.

              4) If your doctor persists in asking intrusive questions about guns in your home, you can also file a complaint specifically against him or her with your health plan. Such complaints are taken seriously, and the doctor will be called to account for it. Having one or more complaints about ethical boundary violations on her record will make her think twice about doing it again.

              5) Internet consumer rating sites have created another way doctors can be publicly rated on the basis of service, attitude, and behavior. Some commonly used rating sites are Yelp.com, Healthgrades.com, Vitals.com, and RateMDs.

              6) Increasingly, doctors’ pay from Medicare and insurance companies is tied to how they score on patient satisfaction surveys. These are often sent randomly to patients, but you can request one to fill out. You can have a powerful impact on a doctor’s conduct by reporting the doctor’s unethical questioning about your guns.

              7) If the doctor’s conduct is especially offensive, as was the case with this Florida pediatrician, you have the right to submit a complaint to the doctor’s licensing board. This is an agency in your state government that holds the ultimate power of licensure over your doctor. A quick internet search for “medical board” in your state should take you to the official form for filing a complaint. This is a step that should not be taken lightly.
              Your right to own a firearm is enshrined in the Constitution. Don’t let any doctor or health plan intimidate you into giving up your civil rights...



              Or, you can just answer "yes" matter-of-factly, since there's nothing wrong with owning guns and there's no reason to act like there is. I actually talk about guns all the time with my doctor. But he's a fellow gun enthusiast. Maybe gun owners should flip the script and make a point of asking our doctors how they feel about guns and gun ownership, and then make our medical provider decisions accordingly.
              Last edited by Mayor McRifle; 10-13-2018, 5:45 PM.
              Anchors Aweigh

              sigpic

              Comment

              • #67
                Dan_Eastvale
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2013
                • 10646

                Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                They are studying it like any other health risk. What makes you so nervous about that? Scared it might turn out that owning a gun increases the risk of being shot? Well of course it does, just like consuming alcohol increases risks for lots of things...I'm still going to drink and own guns, temperance league and Moms Demand be damned.

                If you lie about owning guns you only skew the results because they sure know the guy who accidentally shoots himself in the foot had a gun.

                Comment

                • #68
                  TMB 1
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 7153

                  Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                  They aren't studying gun shot wounds.... Which is what a hospital and Doctors should do.... Since they treat the sick and injured...

                  They are studying gun violence and yes a waste of 2 million... Their study will surely be evaluated and used by the anti 2A powers to be in CA.

                  Stick to medicine and STOP trying to influence gun control policy which is none of their business...
                  They study gun shot wounds every time our country is in a war and a lot in Chicago.
                  sigpic

                  Comment

                  • #69
                    ChuckDizzle
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2013
                    • 4398

                    Sure, my right to self defense isn't predicated on the epidemiology of gun violence.

                    Comment

                    • #70
                      ChuckDizzle
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 4398

                      Originally posted by Mayor McRifle
                      https://www.usacarry.com/doctors-patient-owns-gun/




                      Your right to own a firearm is enshrined in the Constitution. Don’t let any doctor or health plan intimidate you into giving up your civil rights...



                      Or, you can just answer "yes" matter-of-factly, since there's nothing wrong with owning guns and there's no reason to act like there is. I actually talk about guns all the time with my doctor. But he's a fellow gun enthusiast. Maybe gun owners should flip the script and make a point of asking our doctors how they feel about guns and gun ownership, and then make our medical provider decisions accordingly.
                      I don't get it, the shifty behavior of lying about gun ownership misses valuable opportunities to positively represent gun owners.

                      Comment

                      • #71
                        Dan_Eastvale
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 10646

                        Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                        Sure, my right to self defense isn't predicated on the epidemiology of gun violence.
                        It is.. you'll find out what CA decision makers will use these studies for.. they will say the way to curtail gun violence is to curtail YOUR gun rights..

                        Comment

                        • #72
                          ChuckDizzle
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 4398

                          Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
                          It is.. you'll find out what CA decision makers will use these studies for.. they will say the way to curtail gun violence is to curtail YOUR gun rights..
                          As if they need a new study to do that?

                          Comment

                          • #73
                            Dan_Eastvale
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 10646

                            Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                            As if they need a new study to do that?
                            The CA study including Kaiser's is "gun" violence instead of violence. Emphasis on gun.. Other states and the USA know guns aren't the problem. CA funded studies relating to gun violence are adding data and fuel to the fire when your new governor is elected and feels compelled to make decisions.

                            Comment

                            • #74
                              R Dale
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 1736

                              Originally posted by ChuckDizzle
                              Yes it is, you don't treat gunshot wounds the same as you do a stab wound or head injury.
                              You wasted your time say the obvious that almost anyone would know. But furthermore I would bet some minor gunshot wounds could be treated the same as cuts and head injuries. But as someone has said how you treat a wound has absolutely nothing to do why crimes are happening.

                              Comment

                              • #75
                                colossians323
                                Crusader for the truth!
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 21637

                                Originally posted by RuMasco
                                Kiddo was starting kinder and one of the requirements foe enrollment was that she take a physical before school started......usually i have Fridays off so me and the misses took her in. Everything was pretty mormal at the docs office even the constant harrasment about getting the flu vaccine. They start asking all these questions about alcohol use of drugs and tobacco and im pretty indifferent about all this so i answer the questions till he asked me if there were guns in the house and if so how many.

                                Had me bothered and i asked him whats this have to do with my kids physical. Before he started mumbling a answer i told him it wasnt his damn business. Wife asked me to take a walk so i did

                                What the hell is going on in California.
                                Been through this several times

                                If female doctor, I asked if she gave her husband/boyfriend fellatio anytime in the last few weeks. After I get the shocked look, they normally understand that it is none of their damn business.

                                If male, I asked if they banged their wife/girlfriend last night, they seem to understand faster than the females
                                LIVE FREE OR DIE!

                                M. Sage's I have a dream speech;

                                Originally posted by M. Sage
                                I dream about the day that the average would-be rapist is afraid to approach a woman who's walking alone at night. I dream of the day when two punks talk each other out of sticking up a liquor store because it's too damn risky.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                UA-8071174-1