Doctors Office

[POLICESTATE]

We get asked the same questions in Texas, and I've seen other people report the same in other states. I imagine this is really coming at the behest of the health insurance companies for future risk assessment.

However I also know that stuff on forms often find their way into databases.

Databases for medical information are secure and have to comply with HIPPA so there is no worry about the information being leaked or misused.

Until things change that is. A new law, a data breach, whatever. Things are always secure until they are not.

Let that sink in.

Things are always secure UNTIL THEY ARE NOT.

The reason why they may become unsecure or misused does not really matter so much as the fact that once it occurs there may or may not be ramifications. What they may be is of course a matter of speculation but they would range from a best cases to worst cases.

So here's what I do.

Do you drink? How much per week? A few drinks per week.
Do you smoke? No.
Do you use recreational drugs? No.
Do you own guns? No.

Now the real answer are more like several or more drinks per week, the rare cigar, no drugs, and hell yeah I own guns, and I carry them too!

My wife and kids have been trained and practice the same.

Remember, declining to answer = YES.

I think the avenue to decline should be done through your elected representatives (at least ones you trust) and without being specific as to which questions.


However you are of course free to do as you see fit.

[Dan_Eastvale]

Unfortunately. I Think Texas is a lost state.

[R Dale]

There was a discussion here a few days ago about a alarm company asking their customers if there was a guns in the house, and again the answer has nothing to do with how the call is responded to just like it does not help the doctor to treat you by
knowing if you have a gun. The bottom line is this the anti gun crowd is trying to find out anyway they can who has guns by using anyone that will corporate with them. At some point that info will be used against the public and that is the only reason they are trying so hard to find out.

How this info is obtained and categorized will help determine which peoples houses and property will be searched more thoroughly you can bet on it.

[Jdjones24]

Had the same thing. I just say no guns because I'm a pacifist.

[AregularGuy]

As I said, if yes (at Kaiser) you get a note in your chart. This allows for collating data as essentially your electronic medical record is part of a huge database. Run a report for all of the charts with a certain diagnosis in their "problem list" (part of how diagnoses are arranged in Epic - the documentation system of Kaiser, Sutter health, and others) and now you have huge amounts of data you can pull stats from, cross reference with other diagnoses, procedures, demographics. I get demographic data on patient satisfaction scores, i.e., Asian females between ages 35-45 rate you this way. If they can do that for patient satisfaction surveys they will dig deep for gun data.

[VMCJ-3]

I usually talk about firearms with my long time family doctor. But then, he is a hard core IDPA shooter and kind of a silent partner in a LGS.

It was always kind of fun to bust him outside having a smoke, when he and his buddy would have a booth at a gun show.

I would tell him that my wife said I need a prescription to buy a new gun, he would say "I'll write you one."

[Exdc]

Doctors Office

They are studying it like any other health risk. What makes you so nervous about that? Scared it might turn out that owning a gun increases the risk of being shot? Well of course it does, just like consuming alcohol increases risks for lots of things...I'm still going to drink and own guns, temperance league and Moms Demand be damned.



If you lie about owning guns you only skew the results because they sure know the guy who accidentally shoots himself in the foot had a gun.

https://www.usacarry.com/doctors-patient-owns-gun/

https://www.ammoland.com/2015/06/what-to-do-when-your-doctor-asks-about-your-guns/#axzz5TrSOoc7Y

Or, you can just answer "yes" matter-of-factly, since there's nothing wrong with owning guns and there's no reason to act like there is. I actually talk about guns all the time with my doctor. But he's a fellow gun enthusiast. Maybe gun owners should flip the script and make a point of asking our doctors how they feel about guns and gun ownership, and then make our medical provider decisions accordingly.

This precisely. We want it known that as many reasonable people have guns as possible. Otherwise we fall into the liberal stereotype that only crazy people own guns, and it's easier to pass gun laws. By denying that we own guns, we are helping them hurt us. We need to change the public perception about gun owners and ownership.



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[R Dale]

This precisely. We want it known that as many reasonable people have guns as possible. Otherwise we fall into the liberal stereotype that only crazy people own guns, and it's easier to pass gun laws. By denying that we own guns, we are helping them hurt us. We need to change the public perception about gun owners and ownership.



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We must remember the anti gun people are not concerned with who is reasonable or sane, they only want to know where the guns are.

[Exdc]

We must remember the anti gun people are not concerned with who is reasonable or sane, they only want to know where the guns are.

When you only know someone as your enemy it is easier to wish them ill, or to assume the worst of them. I make a point to build rapport with people in my personal and professional relationships, such that when the topic of firearms inevitably comes up, I can safely share my status as an owner. Then they can respect me as a knowledgeable source of less biased information.


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[flyer898]

[tileguy]

I don't tell doctors or law enforcement I have firearms.

[guhuna]

Saw my Kaiser Dr. last Thursday. He only asked one question, "Is there any Abuse going on at your house". I was kinda surprised, told him no. He didn't ask anything else.

Same, I was given this chart that was laminated that asked all kinds of questions. I was to check each one that applied to me, like was I being touched inappropriately at home, was anyone in my household abusing any type of drugs, was my wife/spouse abusive etc etc. I found it amusing, but my primary Dr didn't.

[kmas]

Hope you "carry" at your doctor's office

[PeterGunner]

[CinnamonBear723]

Lots of good back and forth on this. I can understand both sides. Personally, the question wouldn't offend me because it doesn't surprise me one bit that this commie state would ask(even if it came from a federal protocol). I would just answer no and move on. It takes years and years to build up a measurable amount of lead exposure. I'm on my departments range staff and handle firearms constantly and doc says I'm still good.