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  • #31
    TRICKSTER
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12438

    Originally posted by NIKSD
    I am not saying they can not show up at the front door without a warrant, I am saying very few smart people will let them in if they don’t show a warrant.

    -We are here to examine your guns.
    -Do you have a warrant?
    -No, but we can get one very easy
    -Good! Go get one! Good buy!
    Smart people know the difference between a discussion about DOJ doing door to door warrant less AW compliance checks and welfare/health checks or fire marshal inspections.


    Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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    • #32
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      2 posts in one year. Brig bunny afraid of the boogeyman or twit troll. Hides his location.

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      • #33
        mlevans66
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2009
        • 9516

        Originally posted by TRICKSTER
        Smart people know the difference between a discussion about DOJ doing door to door warrant less AW compliance checks and welfare/health checks or fire marshal inspections.
        Once again that word is thrown around "smart". Yes the smart person will not just let ANYONE in there house, period but a LEO will gain a inch of trust plus people will fear they will get in trouble if they don't comply.

        Is this going to happen? Prob not! Can it happen in Cali? ..... Sadly yes, especially in place like LA and SF.
        The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
        The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
        I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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        • #34
          foxtrotuniformlima
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 3457

          Originally posted by sarbiker

          And just what area might that be..?!?!
          OP is in the AV ( Antelope Valley )
          Anyone press will hear the fat lady sing.

          Originally posted by Vin Scully
          Don't be sad that it's over. Smile because it happened.
          Originally posted by William James
          I cannot allow your ignorance, however great, to take precedence over my knowledge, however small.
          Originally posted by BigPimping
          When you reach the plateau, there's always going to be those that try to drag you down. Just keep up the game, collect the scratch, and ignore those who seek to drag you down to their level.
          .

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          • #35
            Scratch705
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2009
            • 12530

            Originally posted by mlevans66
            You asked the question I gave the answer. They can also come and do health and welfare checks as well. Will they do that for compliance? Don't know but they can ask you. They go to ranges (Lyttle creek) and do it all the time, no warrants. Cali is so bold now they may just go door to door at this point.
            the lytle creek range is different.

            those are typically not local cops, those are federal BLM agents, and it is one of the provisions for the range to operate on public land. This is why there are the warnings at the check in office and the ban of +10 magazines.

            plus, your gun is in plain view. they can't go searching in your car or closed up gun bag, but if the gun is sitting on the bench in plain view, the LEO can and will inspect it for compliance.
            Originally posted by leelaw
            Because -ohmigosh- they can add their opinions, too?
            Originally posted by SoCalSig1911
            Preppers canceled my order this afternoon because I called them a disgrace... Not ordering from those clowns again.
            Originally posted by PrepperGunShop
            Truthfully, we cancelled your order because of your lack of civility and your threats ... What is a problem is when you threaten my customer service team and make demands instead of being civil. Plain and simple just don't be an a**hole (where you told us to shove it).

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            • #36
              Milsurp1
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2016
              • 3091

              Administrative warrantless inspections are limited by the constitution and statute, and almost never apply to residences.

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              • #37
                TRICKSTER
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Mar 2008
                • 12438

                Originally posted by mlevans66
                Once again that word is thrown around "smart". Yes the smart person will not just let ANYONE in there house, period but a LEO will gain a inch of trust plus people will fear they will get in trouble if they don't comply.

                Is this going to happen? Prob not! Can it happen in Cali? ..... Sadly yes, especially in place like LA and SF.
                Smart people don't spread FUD or pretend to be answering a specific question addressed to someone else while in reality not answering the question and posting links to items that have nothing to do with the question.
                Who does do that? Trolls and spreaders of FUD.


                Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                • #38
                  mlevans66
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 9516

                  Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                  Smart people don't spread FUD or pretend to be answering a specific question addressed to someone else while in reality not answering the question and posting links to items that have nothing to do with the question.
                  Who does do that? Trolls and spreaders of FUD.
                  I answered your question and gave examples of police using warrantless search twice over. What you choose to gloss over is up to you. Sure it can be FUD but Ive been to the range where the cops show up and start looking at mags and rifles. Wont be to far off to believe at order was given to search a few homes in that state. I actually hope its not FUD so people can see how far off the cliff Cali is going.
                  The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
                  The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
                  I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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                  • #39
                    Foebia
                    Banned
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 1347

                    I did see a blackhawk chopper the other day. Did not have any markings and couldnt see the drivers helmet even with my laser pointer

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                    • #40
                      mlevans66
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 9516

                      Originally posted by Scratch705
                      the lytle creek range is different.

                      those are typically not local cops, those are federal BLM agents, and it is one of the provisions for the range to operate on public land. This is why there are the warnings at the check in office and the ban of +10 magazines.

                      plus, your gun is in plain view. they can't go searching in your car or closed up gun bag, but if the gun is sitting on the bench in plain view, the LEO can and will inspect it for compliance.
                      Ahh thank you. Hadnt thought of that but we did have some BLM ask to see mags that where in the bags as well.
                      The liberal see's the glass as half full and tries to take more.
                      The conservative see's glass as half empty and tries to keep it that way.
                      I'm with the people on the side just pouring water in the glass trying to get a drink!

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                      • #41
                        NATEWA
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 5977

                        They can go door to door all they want. You don’t have to open the door or let them in. If they can legally enter your house (because the have evidence that a crime is happening or a criminal is in your home), then they will kick down the door.

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                        • #42
                          tummy06
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 1053

                          ^^^agreed , way to many the sky is falling people

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                          • #43
                            Dirk Tungsten
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 2045

                            Bait thread. C'mon Calguns, too many of you bit on this one.

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                            • #44
                              riderr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 6632

                              Originally posted by Scratch705
                              they can't go searching in your car or closed up gun bag , but if the gun is sitting on the bench in plain view, the LEO can and will inspect it for compliance.
                              This is not accurate. Librarian provided a link to a case law allowing LEO to search bags, which are solely designed for guns.

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                              • #45
                                Dan_Eastvale
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 10270

                                Originally posted by Sapperforward
                                Gome on guys, leave OP alone. HE KNOWS A GUY!
                                Yeah, like asking for a friend

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