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  • ja308
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2009
    • 12660

    Originally posted by TriumphantApe
    Politicians are getting in on it, the NAACP is in on it, the weaponized social media is in on it.
    The shooter is cooked, or riots will start.

    https://patch.com/florida/clearwater...ttorneys-hands
    This is going no where on a federal level ! That swamp piece you kindly linked to pretty much indicated this is another democrat witch hunt.

    Designed to enflame the very ignorant and to whip up support for democrats who are currently behind in Florida polls.

    Hopefully if they start to burn their own commuitys over this. arsonists will be severely punished!

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    • God Bless America
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2014
      • 5165

      Originally posted by ja308
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      Hopefully if they start to burn their own commuitys over this. arsonists will be severely punished!
      Just which communities are you hoping burn? And why?

      Why would you hope for death and destruction instead of peace?


      Edited, see below.
      Last edited by God Bless America; 08-02-2018, 10:18 AM.

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      • ja308
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2009
        • 12660

        Originally posted by God Bless America
        Just which communities are you hoping burn? And why?

        Why would you hope for death and destruction instead of peace?
        I an not hoping for any violence, but as we saw with Rodney King,Fergison and other places that suffered destruction after the inner city community was misled by democrat media, it could happen!

        My heart goes out to the decent people in those communitys who lose their, lives homes, jobs and business's because there is a media whipped up frenzy encouraging arson,looting and violence!

        Just saying an arsonist or looter should be dealt with harshley!

        BTW you saw 1st hand how the media misleads those who still trust it .
        Here is the example from link posted by TA post 345
        "McGlockton's family is also calling for Drejka's arrest. They have hired Tallahassee attorney Benjamin Crump who represented Trayvon Martin's family in the well-publicized Stand Your Ground case in which security guard George Zimmerman shot and killed the 17-year-old teen in a gated community in Sanford."

        This of us who followed closely the Zimmerman case see the above quote as absolute BS ! Martin was slamming Zimmermans head into the concrete and everything proves that!
        FWIW this dimwitted paper call Zimmerman a security guard when in real life he was a neighborhood watch captain. Brought about after a crime wave hit their neighborhood1
        Last edited by ja308; 08-02-2018, 9:22 AM.

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        • God Bless America
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2014
          • 5165

          ja308 I apologize, I misread what you wrote, I missed the all-important "if."

          For the record, you did not state that you hoped they would burn down their communities.

          I am glad to be wrong on this.

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          • ja308
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2009
            • 12660

            Originally posted by God Bless America
            ja308 I apologize, I misread what you wrote, I missed the all-important "if."

            For the record, you did not state that you hoped they would burn down their communities.

            I am glad to be wrong on this.
            Its OK Sir we all misread posts occasionally !

            Curious if you read the media as I did, just trying to enflame this situation into violence ?

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            • TriumphantApe
              Member
              • Aug 2016
              • 101

              Originally posted by ja308
              This is going no where on a federal level ! That swamp piece you kindly linked to pretty much indicated this is another democrat witch hunt.

              Designed to enflame the very ignorant and to whip up support for democrats who are currently behind in Florida polls.

              Hopefully if they start to burn their own commuitys over this. arsonists will be severely punished!
              It's election time =)
              I think the shooter gets crucified.

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              • God Bless America
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2014
                • 5165

                Originally posted by ja308
                Its OK Sir we all misread posts occasionally !

                Curious if you read the media as I did, just trying to enflame this situation into violence ?
                No, I do not read it that way. No politician lets a crisis go to waste, but I do not think anybody really wants riots.

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                • TriumphantApe
                  Member
                  • Aug 2016
                  • 101

                  Originally posted by God Bless America
                  No politician lets a crisis go to waste, but I do not think anybody really wants riots.
                  Clearly some people do as they advocate and practice it, ANTIFA comes to mind.

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                  • ja308
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 12660

                    Originally posted by TriumphantApe
                    Clearly some people do as they advocate and practice it, ANTIFA comes to mind.
                    Thinking Black Lies Matter could be included too!

                    This of us old enough to remember how the democrat run TV media encouraged the LA riots. I remember one reporter sticking a mic under this thugs nose asking. " Do you think the black community will stand for this ?
                    Even the mayor said "Its time to get angry" ! IIRC 67 non blacks were murdered during this media created event.

                    We shooters who have watched the big democrat media cover every illegal act committed by someone with a gun endlessly, but never cover defensive use or great shooting athletes (Kim Rhode).

                    Never is a gun owner portrayed as an educated, well dressed, affluent, law abiding, member of society !
                    This is who the NYTimes hires;

                    Dumbass ****ing white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants
                    8:41 PM - 28 Nov 2014
                    Last edited by ja308; 08-02-2018, 1:37 PM.

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                    • HK9
                      Member
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 158

                      Originally posted by TriumphantApe
                      Politicians are getting in on it, the NAACP is in on it, the weaponized social media is in on it.
                      The shooter is cooked, or riots will start.
                      Pop quiz:

                      US History. Who founded the NAACP?
                      US History. Who established the Entertainment Industry?
                      US History. When did News become Entertainment?
                      US History. When did Entertainment become Misinformation/Disinformation?
                      US History. Who is the ultimate funding source of national political campaigns?

                      All of these questions have the exact same answer and the exact same source.

                      This begs the question: Whose really behind the riots, if they were to take place?

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                      • ja308
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 12660

                        President Trump nails it when he calls them FAKE NEWS .
                        I go one further, enemy to the people and enemy to USA FREEDOM !

                        Time to investigate Russian influence in schools and Media !

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                        • God Bless America
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2014
                          • 5165

                          Originally posted by TriumphantApe
                          Clearly some people do as they advocate and practice it, ANTIFA comes to mind.
                          OK that's true, antifa does like to riot, but not in their own neighborhood.

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                          • theLBC
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 6948

                            Originally posted by ja308
                            President Trump nails it when he calls them FAKE NEWS .
                            I go one further, enemy to the people and enemy to USA FREEDOM !

                            Time to investigate Russian influence in schools and Media !
                            haha, there are over 11 million foreign nationals living here illegally, many of them marching and doing anything they can to influence our elections, even voting in some cases.

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                            • HK9
                              Member
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 158

                              Originally posted by theLBC
                              haha, there are over 11 million foreign nationals living here illegally, many of them marching and doing anything they can to influence our elections, even voting in some cases.

                              Over 50,000 of them are from Ireland, alone. Mostly from Eastern Europe, but secondarily from Northern and Western Europe. From 1980 to 2016, almost the rate of 5 million per year migrated to the US. The estimates of just how many are undocumented is unknown, primarily because of the ease with which an European blends into the demographic background of just about any region of the US.

                              Using the same ratio of documented vs undocumented immigrants that is often used with South Americans who come, from 1980 to 2016, there would be an estimated 12.6 million using 7% as the ratio. And, that just going back as far as 1980. There was plenty of illegal immigration taking place from Europe to the US during the time of Ellis Island, out through the entire 1970s.

                              History is a drag when you start to actually study it.

                              We have an immigration problem, but it began long before there was a South American Immigration Problem used as political bait for the uninformed and the under-informed who don't do their homework. Right no, immigration is being tossed around as the most recent hot political potato - but there has been lots of other political bait used in the past to divide people:

                              Abortion. Hell, we don't even talk about that anymore.
                              Voting Rights. Used to be a hot potato used to get people in and out of office.
                              Segregation. An entire movement was stoked with this one.
                              War. Pick one. It was used as political bait at one point.
                              Crime. A drone of the 1980s. Vintage division material.

                              The list of political bait dividers is massive. Supermassive, even. But, hey. People love repeating the errors of history. So, we keep getting what we get in Washington and State governments around the country. Why? Because, we refuse to accept the truth about our own History and we love repeating its errors.

                              What do you do with so-called illegals? Create a cast iron path to citizenship and enforce it from this point forward. What do you do with those who are already here illegally? Mandate that they follow the law and immigrate through the proper channels with a time limit on meeting those requirements. It is not fair to require some to come by way of proper channels, while allowing others to flaunt those channels. Mandate those already here, do so within a specified amount of time.

                              Solving this problem was never hard. Getting into deep space and colonizing Earth II, is hard. Dealing with immigration is not. We claim to be the smartest nation on earth, yet we can't solve immigration. That's an oxymoron with emphasis on the moron. We can have a robust and diverse nation with a solid economy and we can deal with immigration properly - all at the same time.

                              This never had to become a political bait machine. Yet, a political bait machine is exactly what we have today and for no good reason other than politics, politicking, foolish pride and a refusal to accept real extant American History, for what it is.

                              Everybody got here on a Boat. The only exception to the rule are Aboriginal Americans. But, to get into that history, we'd have to go back more than 50,000 years ago at minimum. 10,000+ years ago the Olmec, were here. Those were my Ancestors. So, what are we really talking about here. Greed? Arrogance? Ignorance of History?

                              People love to come here. That should make us all proud. And, we need to have established rules for getting here legally. But, being arrogant about your legal status here, when your progenitors walked off a boat to get here themselves, providing you with a foundation that you never built for yourself, that's the height of hubris. Open boarders? No. But, shutting down boarders is not the answer either. If we run out of supportive infrastructure, we can temporarily put a pause on all immigration. Nothing wrong with that. We have to do what's right for the country as a whole and if suspending immigration accomplishes that, then so bet it. We can resume at a later time. This does not include those fleeing war and direct persecution in their own homeland, of course.

                              Remember, the vast majority of you got HERE from someWHERE that was not HERE to begin with. You are not indigenous. You never were. And, for the vast majority of you, your progenitors were trying to escape something in their own lives, to preserve a possible brighter tomorrow for their future generations. They saw the New World and later America, as the greatest opportunity available to them at the time. Nobody, considered them "illegal" or "alien" - unless you were an Aboriginal American. In that case, you no doubt believed the world might be coming to and end.

                              How we forget our own History.
                              Last edited by HK9; 08-02-2018, 3:48 PM.

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                              • TMB 1
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 7153

                                Originally posted by HK9

                                Everybody got here on a Boat. The only exception to the rule are Aboriginal Americans. But, to get into that history, we'd have to go back more than 50,000 years ago at minimum. 10,000+ years ago the Olmec, were here. Those were my Ancestors. So, what are we really talking about here. Greed? Arrogance? Ignorance of History?
                                People love to come here. That should make us all proud. And, we need to have established rules for getting here legally. But, being arrogant about your legal status here, when your progenitors walked off a boat to get here themselves, providing you with a foundation that you never built for yourself, that's the height of hubris. Open boarders? No. But, shutting down boarders is not the answer either. If we run out of supportive infrastructure, we can temporarily put a pause on all immigration. Nothing wrong with that. We have to do what's right for the country as a whole and if suspending immigration accomplishes that, then so bet it. We can resume at a later time. This does not include those fleeing war and direct persecution in their own homeland, of course.

                                Remember, the vast majority of you got HERE from someWHERE that was not HERE to begin with. You are not indigenous. You never were. And, for the vast majority of you, your progenitors were trying to escape something in their own lives, to preserve a possible brighter tomorrow for their future generations. They saw the New World and later America, as the greatest opportunity available to them at the time. Nobody, considered them "illegal" or "alien" - unless you were an Aboriginal American. In that case, you no doubt believed the world might be coming to and end.

                                How we forget our own History.
                                You are wrong. The vast majority today may have ancestors that came from somewhere else, but they are mixed blood from all over the world including aboriginal. They are from from here. Had all those people not came here from somewhere else, the vast majority of people here would not exist. Including people who have aboriginal ancestors, not many full blooded Aboriginal Americans these days.

                                I think you forgot our own history.
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