Thug gets a slug !

[Citadelgrad87]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=syV2LkGpQB0

Not worth a click.

Adios.

[riderr]

he seemed fine when he took the shot. was he grievously injured?
he killed the man (i assume) because he felt threatened.

i would feel threatened in a crowd of antifa idiots, more so than i would with my gun drawn and pointed at the dead dude. so why can't i kill them all?

He reasonably feared for his life, since he was attacked in the manner consistent with getting killed or seriously injured.

You can be threatened by people looks, but it absolutely doesn't mean you have a reasonable fear, unless they physically attack you.

[Rivers]

About that specific moment, when Drejka first draws & fires his gun: The only point that matters is whether Drejka thought his life was threatened at the time he fired the shot.

All a jury would be considering is whether it was reasonable or unreasonable that Drejka could have felt threatened; not whether any jury member would have felt a real threat, only whether it was reasonable that Drejka PERCEIVED himself to be in danger of great bodily harm or death.

[theLBC]

He reasonably feared for his life, since he was attacked in the manner consistent with getting killed or seriously injured.

You can be threatened by people looks, but it absolutely doesn't mean you have a reasonable fear, unless they physically attack you.

so dude that got bashed with a bike lock could have killed everyone near him?
no, sorry.

did he fear for his life, or was he embarrassed he got tossed on his butt?

[theLBC]

About that specific moment, when Drejka first draws & fires his gun: The only point that matters is whether Drejka thought his life was threatened at the time he fired the shot.

All a jury would be considering is whether it was reasonable or unreasonable that Drejka could have felt threatened; not whether any jury member would have felt a real threat, only whether it was reasonable that Drejka PERCEIVED himself to be in danger of great bodily harm or death.

this is more to the point, thanks.
and what is harder, is that the shooter no longer has to prove he was fearing for his life...it is the prosecution's burden to prove he wasn't.
this is (imho) the reason they didn't want to press charges...

the only justification i can see is if the shooter thought the dead guy could have been armed and going for a weapon.

[riderr]

so dude that got bashed with a bike lock could have killed everyone near him?
no, sorry.

Are you referring to the Berkley rally fight?

[theLBC]

Are you referring to the Berkley rally fight?

did it happen more than once?

[riderr]

did it happen more than once?

Each situation is different. Bring over the details (better yet in another thread), and we'll likely discuss it.

[Ivan275]

so dude that got bashed with a bike lock could have killed everyone near him?
no, sorry.

did he fear for his life, or was he embarrassed he got tossed on his butt?

Drejka didn't shoot everyone near him, just his attacker.

If the dude that got his head bashed with a bike lock shot the guy that did it while the guy was within a few feet and still facing him I'd call that a good shoot. But if he got a mini gun out and mowed down everyone with in a mile that would be a slight over reaction on his part and a bad shooting.

[God Bless America]

[B]...The only point that matters is whether Drejka thought his life was threatened at the time he fired the shot.

Which is a subjective standard.

All a jury would be considering is whether it was reasonable or unreasonable that Drejka could have felt threatened;

Which goes beyond a subjective standard.

Drejka's belief, as you note in the second phrase, only goes so far.

[theLBC]

Drejka didn't shoot everyone near him, just his attacker.

If the dude that got his head bashed with a bike lock shot the guy that did it while the guy was within a few feet and still facing him I'd call that a good shoot. But if he got a mini gun out and mowed down everyone with in a mile that would be a slight over reaction on his part and a bad shooting.

i am just saying it might be "reasonable" to "feel" "threatened" by all of the people in masks, once you are assaulted by one of them that are surrounding you.
they are purposely hiding behind masks so you don't know who assaulted you, in my opinion, that makes them complicit in the attack.

i do like your mini gun idea though

[TMB 1]

I see McGlockton's attack, advance move to Drejka, then the gun is withdrawn, McGlockton makes a step back, the gun is fired a second or two later.


It's a reasonable and legit self-defense in my view.

Yeah it did happen fast, but McGlockton was moving back as Drejka was reaching back. Was only 6-7 seconds from time of shove to the time of shot. Freeze framed the video from 18 thru 24 sec marks at 20 Drejka was reaching and McGlockton was backing, at 21 McGlockton was still backing and Drejka had hand on gun drawing, by 23 shot fired, at 24 McGlockton running away holding chest.

[TMB 1]

Drejka didn't shoot everyone near him, just his attacker.

If the dude that got his head bashed with a bike lock shot the guy that did it while the guy was within a few feet and still facing him I'd call that a good shoot. But if he got a mini gun out and mowed down everyone with in a mile that would be a slight over reaction on his part and a bad shooting.

i am just saying it might be "reasonable" to "feel" "threatened" by all of the people in masks, once you are assaulted by one of them that are surrounding you.
they are purposely hiding behind masks so you don't know who assaulted you, in my opinion, that makes them complicit in the attack.

i do like your mini gun idea though

Shooting the someone spraying stuff at your eyes should be good shoot too.

[Doheny]

Sounds like the State Attorney will decide: https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/r...round-shooting

[TriumphantApe]

Politicians are getting in on it, the NAACP is in on it, the weaponized social media is in on it.
The shooter is cooked, or riots will start.

The Pinellas County Ministerial Alliance and the Clearwater/Upper Pinellas County Branch of the NAACP were expected to attend Gualtieri's press conference on Tuesday but canceled a half an hour before.

Instead, NAACP branch president, Marva McWhite, sent a letter to the U.S. Department of Justice requesting a review of the case.

Dear Attorney General Sessions and Assistant Attorney General Gore:

We are writing to request that the Department of Justice Civil Rights Division Criminal Section open an investigation into the death of Markeis McGlockton at the hands of Michael Drejka in Clearwater, Florida, on July 19, 2018.

Thank you for your immediate attention to this matter.

That request to the DOJ was reiterated by U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-FL, U.S. Rep. Charlie Crist, D-Fl, and other members of Congress, which forwarded their own letter to the DOJ on July 27.

I am calling on DOJ to investigate the shooting that took place in Clearwater last week and determine whether any criminal charges should be filed. pic.twitter.com/Uorw92y7hF
— Senator Bill Nelson (@SenBillNelson) July 27, 2018

https://patch.com/florida/clearwater/clearwater-stand-your-ground-case-now-state-attorneys-hands