CA Ammo Ban - Explained

[BigBamBoo]

When Dr. Wintemute's minions run their operations, they will provide the CHP with probable cause. They work in teams. The parking lot group will take pictures of the CA plated vehicles and the people getting out of those cars. The pictures are sent to the people working inside the store or gun show.

Then two or three people will tag team to follow the people inside. They use hidden cameras in buttons, glasses, or other pieces of jewelry. They record the person buying CA illegal items.

This information is sent to the CHP stationed at the CA agriculture inspection station. Dr. Wintemute provided the CHP with a plate reader to be used at the Ag check station on I-80 a few years back. The license is inputed and when the vehicle returns it alerts the CHP at the Truck Inspection station. An Officer then meets the driver at the Ag. inspection station or pulls the driver over. The picture of the purchases are the probable cause for the stop and search.

I have attended a couple of Dr. Wintemute's talks on his operations. He is not stupid, he knows his operations will not come close to catching the majority of people who violate CA laws. They do catch some and that has value to send a message that will stop others from trying. Their fishing expeditions also net people violating other laws like transporting loaded guns or transporting handguns that are not in locked cases which Dr. Wintemute claims reduces the potential for gun violence. In reality, it just self-validates his junk science.

The smart move is to stay away from Cabelas in Reno as that is one of their favorite places due to it being so isolated. The only people that pull into that parking lot are there to go into Cabelas. They stay away from Scheels because it is in a huge shopping mall which makes it nearly impossible to track people from the parking lot into the store. It is hard to determine which store people are there to visit and often they visit more than one. Wintemute's group want to get the most violators with the least amount of effort.

We all know this law is nearly impossible to enforce. A few will be caught. The easiest way to avoid detection is to drive around the Ag. inspection stations, this is not hard to do. I have not driven through one in over 10 years.

Ultimately, enforcement will target the low hanging fruit. Then again, there are many ways to legally buy out of state and return with your ammo. Read the law and find the legal way that fits your situation and use it.

All that for an infraction? Wow.


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[lakersfan]

Got curious. Ran down to Sportsman's Warehouse. All ammo is in locked cases. Asked their department manager if they will be selling ammo tomorrow. He said absolutely, just has to be locked up now. Here is a photo of the cases and a new sign.

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Went into the Fairfield location yesterday it was the same way haven't been there in a couple of months. They also walk the ammo to the registers for you to pay for it like Wal Mart

[joepamjohn]

Worth watching the whole thing; very informative. What’s shocking is the part about the California Hitler Youth watching for Nevada and Arizona ammo purchases by customers with California plates, then calling ahead to the CHP for them to be stopped at the border and searched.

I’m so glad we live in the land of the free...! [emoji849]


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There are no resources to actively monitor who my bring a 525 pack or two of Golden Bullets across state lines. Now if you go to an out of state venue and need to use a handtruck or forklift to load your California plated van or truck, you may attract some attention.

[Drew Eckhardt]

AMAZING...isn't it? And this is how they're gonna STOP gun crime in CA or across the country?!!! Criminals don't buy thousands of round in a bulk, only hobbyists and range shooters do. A criminal can cause devastation with just 20 rounds.

No, this is how Gavin Newsom becomes governor of California which would have the seventh largest GDP (behind France, ahead of India) if it was a country. That's also a great stepping stone to President of The United States as we saw with President Reagan.

He has that overwhelming support because most of our population lives in the San Francisco Bay and LA Metropolitan areas which are urban, so they have no personal experience with guns, and are easily swayed by reports of criminals killing each other plus propaganda promulgated by Hollywood writers following the Entertainment Industries Council guide.

To those people asking the Sunnyvale city council to send gun owners to jail "People owning these things make me sad" and after being told the new laws would make no difference in our murder rate 40% of Europe's "It's important to send a message to the rest of the country."

Actually stopping gun crime would be bad, because then politicians like Governor Newsom would have less justification for new laws and nothing left to campaign on.

And then there's the black-market for guns (and now ammo). Who is monitoring that and how?

No one, because gun control is about feelings not crime.

[longrifle1]

Without probable cause the police can't search your vehicle unless you let them. Politely decline the search of your car. The fact that you left a legit place of business is not probable cause.