CA Ammo Ban - Explained

[mshill]

Just playing devils advocate here.

If you were caught importing a case of ammo you could be facing a charge for every 50 rounds you bring in above the allowed 50. A very aggressive prosecutor could potentially charge you with 19 offenses.

Not worth the risk for me.

Nothing in the law (see below) says anything about 50 rounds.

(a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312 .

(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following:

(1) An ammunition vendor.

(2) A sworn peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830 ) of Title 3 of Part 2, or sworn federal law enforcement officer, who is authorized to carry a firearm in the course and scope of the officer's duties.

(3) An importer or manufacturer of ammunition or firearms who is licensed to engage in business pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921 ) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto.

(4) A person who is on the centralized list of exempted federal firearms licensees maintained by the Department of Justice pursuant to Article 6 (commencing with Section 28450 ) of Chapter 6 of Division 6.

(5) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921 ) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710 .

(6) A person who acquired the ammunition from a spouse, registered domestic partner, or immediate family member as defined in Section 16720 .

(c) A violation of this section is an infraction for any first time offense, and either an infraction or a misdemeanor for any subsequent offense.

[BCA142]

You too can be exempt from online purchasing restrictions. Pretty much anyone can if they take the time to do a little research and learn the law.

I'm working on it.

[mshill]

You too can be exempt from online purchasing restrictions. Pretty much anyone can if they take the time to do a little research and learn the law.

And the import restrictions.... all my ammo is given to me by my son's and daughter in Utah when I visit.

[TRICKSTER]

This is amazing -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiguysJ-1Hk

// Interview with Sam Paredes, Gun Owners of California
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// Librarian

Bunch of FUD in this video. Read the laws for yourself, this guy (Sam Paredes of Gun Owners of California) is clueless.

[i like boys a lot]

Cops can pull you over if it pleases them. They can make up the probable cause as they go. Later on, you may be able to prove something in a court or, they may not be able to prove what they said/did. Regardless, your day is ruined and you are out of money for the lawyer.

Highly doubtful that any one be pulled over for ammo check. But If they have other reasons to pull you over and ended up searching your car, they will write you up for the ammo since that is the new fad.

Bro quit licking them boots.

Cop: you know why I pulled you over
Me: No
Cop: you where doing 75 on a 65
Cop: any weapons AMMO in the car
Me: can I have my citation and I'll see u in court
Cop: you have any ammo
Me: I would like to answer any questions only with my lawyer present
Cop: (hands over citation) have a good day

[superdave50]

[heidad01]

Bro quit licking them boots.

Cop: you know why I pulled you over
Me: No
Cop: you where doing 75 on a 65
Cop: any weapons AMMO in the car
Me: can I have my citation and I'll see u in court
Cop: you have any ammo
Me: I would like to answer any questions only with my lawyer present
Cop: (hands over citation) have a good day

Junior, firstly I'm not your Bro.

Secondly, if you think this ^^^ is how it is going to be, either you are the Mayor's/PD Chief's son with a courtesy card in your wallet or you are smoking bad crack.

It never goes as you described. Plenty of Leo's here. They can chime in to tell you it ain't that way.

[TRICKSTER]

Junior, firstly I'm not your Bro.

Secondly, if you think this ^^^ is how it is going to be, either you are the Mayor's/PD Chief's son with a courtesy card in your wallet or you are smoking bad crack.

It never goes as you described. Plenty of Leo's here. They can chime in to tell you it ain't that way.

Why wouldn't it? I made quite a few stops that went that way.
Either I had PC or I didn't. I never just made stuff up.

[i like boys a lot]

Junior, firstly I'm not your Bro.

Secondly, if you think this ^^^ is how it is going to be, either you are the Mayor's/PD Chief's son with a courtesy card in your wallet or you are smoking bad crack.

It never goes as you described. Plenty of Leo's here. They can chime in to tell you it ain't that way.

What does me being a junior member has to do with anything. You seem upset.

Why wouldn't it? I made quite a few stops that went that way.
Either I had PC or I didn't. I never just made stuff up.

Thank you sir

[Librarian]

The law specifically states that any FFL is good to go.

As a kindness, would you please cite the Penal Code that says this? http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes.xhtml

[heidad01]

Why wouldn't it? I made quite a few stops that went that way.
Either I had PC or I didn't. I never just made stuff up.

Does this mean you made quite a few stops without probable cause? And were told to write your ticket and hit the road? Then why did you stop them?

[TRICKSTER]

Does this mean you made quite a few stops without probable cause? And were told to write your ticket and hit the road? Then why did you stop them?

How in the world did you come to that conclusion? Stop is for a legitimate traffic violation, fishing expedition for further violations is rebuffed with a "just give me my ticket", no further PC for any other actions develops, citation is written for original violation, everyone goes on their way.

[Svashtar]

CA Ammo Ban - Explained

Does this mean you made quite a few stops without probable cause? And were told to write your ticket and hit the road? Then why did you stop them?

[Emerson Biggies]

Sitting up here in Michigan and worried about these laws in California. I spent a year in CA. in the service and was impressed by the citizens and the beautiful state as well as it's history.
Tell me, does this law deter you from getting re-loading supplies via UPS??
Is there really any problem with buying out of state and carrying it home?
Will it stop a visitor from another state/planet from importing ammo?
Enquiring minds want to know.... Thanks
Oh as a parting remark, won't a C&R license fix the problem?

[Eureka1911]

As a kindness, would you please cite the Penal Code that says this? http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes.xhtml

16151. (a) As used in this part, commencing January 1, 2018, ammunition vendor means any person, firm, corporation, or other business enterprise that holds a current ammunition vendor license issued pursuant to Section 30385.

(b) Commencing January 1, 2018, a firearms dealer licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive, shall automatically be deemed a licensed ammunition vendor, provided the dealer complies with the requirements of Articles 2 (commencing with Section 30300) and 3 (commencing with Section 30342) of Chapter 1 of Division 10 of Title 4.


ARTICLE 1. License to Sell, Lease, or Transfer Firearms at Retail [26700 - 26725] ( Article 1 added by Stats. 2010, Ch. 711, Sec. 6. )

26700.
As used in this division, and in any other provision listed in Section 16580, “dealer,” “licensee,” or “person licensed pursuant to Sections 26700 to 26915, inclusive” means a person who satisfies all of the following requirements:

(a) Has a valid federal firearms license.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...ctionNum=16151.

http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fa...r=2.&article=1.