Natural disaster, confiscation

[Blade Gunner]

Natural disaster, confiscation

Gee, that is a term repeatedly used by a member of the Special Class. Yet still there are no PUBLIC condemnations by him of the Majority Special Class, which did nothing. Thereby condoning the illegal acts of the "some" he alludes to. The deflective obsfucations all still focus on the "some". Conveniently ignoring the Special Class status of all culpable parties.



Now using lame "drive a car" analogies as more dangerous than cops deflection.



Collective Long Term Memories last far beyond a 12 yr drop in the bucket. Just ask a Jew or an Armenian



And even though cops want to divest themselves of all wrong doing by "some" members of their Special Class. It just doesn't work that way in Public Perceptions of Special Classes.







Oh Yeah, that'll work. Just like all the laws dating back to ratification of the BoR, kept the citizens of NO safe from JBTs in 2005. Anymore than they keep citizens safe today.



Atrocities under color of authority happen quite regularly. And even more are now being made public knowledge instantly with cameras in everyone's hands. All those atrocities are collectively added to the public perception of what happened post Katrina.



A law abiding citizen has no idea whether a simple contact with a cop will turn into crazy Ch!t or not. Yet they all know what officers Yanez, Noor, Slager, Sandy, Perez, etc, etc, etc did and continue to do, don't they? So yeah, fear, and suspicion of cops is not only reasonable it is warranted.



Do cops really think no one remembers this headline? Just 3 yrs ago.







While 3 blocks away a bunch of Torrance PD Cowboys were doing the same to a surfer.



And immediately add it to the Collective Memory as just another Katrina like injustice? Where cops got off scott free for committing crimes under color of authority.

Cops' primary objective is to get home alive and un-injured at the end of their shift. Any force necessary to achieve this goal is warranted. Can you blame them. While the elitists publicly denounce any LEO excessive use of force, they hypocritically condone and support it as cops are the thin blue line that protects them from an untimely demise. All the most ardent anti 2A elitists have either private or publicly provided armed security. If they are so anti gun, lead by example, disarm your security detail, better yet get rid of them. Learn to live like Joe Citizen, unarmed, un-protected, dependent on LEO's that are only a 911 call 15 minutes away.


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[SVT-40]

At least it was before you went off in the weeds about driving cars, falling off ladders, etc, etc, etc. Your obsfucatory deflective tactics of misdirection are nothing new. And easily countered with a thing called the truth.

What else can be done to keep cops from breaking the law, like they did post Katrina?

Is a question that has been many times answered here on CG. You again like always, deny culpability for your class. Just like many other cops here do.

So the only truthful answer is NOTHING. Your class will attempt to give the public perception of compliance. But the underlying problem will remain behind the facade.

As always a problem has to be acknowledged before it can be addressed. Your Class as a whole, just as you, as part of it, will never do what is truly necessary to stop victimizing citizens under color of authority. Whether in individual contacts, or en masse like Katrina.

A 30 plus year history bears witness to the problem you deny exists. A problem that your Special Class created when they embraced the "US v THEM" agenda that changed the role of cops from "citizen police" to State Enforcers. The role you chose as a Class, destroyed the trust and respect you so think you deserve from citizens.

Your Special Class created this widespread problem that destroyed the trust of the citizenry. Rather than admit culpability and work to resolve the problem from within. You consistently fall back on your stupid deflections and actually think it works for you.

A hundred law abiding citizens tell you that your Class created the problem here on CG. Only your Class can fix it. And you always without fail. Refuse to hear. Instead you reach into your little threadbare bag of useless verbal tricks and pull out. YOU HATE COPS!

If you as a member of your Special Class, truly want to improve public perception of your Class. You need to quit posting on internet forums. That is the single most effective thing you as an individual can possibly do for cops. Because your posts are a PR nightmare for good cops everywhere.

Don't you get weary of being so negative all the time?

It's really going to eat you from the inside out...

It's real clear that you lack objectivity and reason.

The hate and bias you have is simply sad.

As I said above. I really feel sorry for you.

[SVT-40]

The first time 30 years ago I was the one carrying the firearm. The second more recent, I wasn't carrying the firearm but I was there about 25 yards away or so on other side of road watching and know the guy. The brake light was me both times and I was never pulled over before with license plate light to make a comparison. The thing I know about armed individuals, is it is their right. We have a piece of paper that is suppose to be the law of the land that says it is. If they're not breaking the law. Why harass them?

Cool...

As I said above often cops get calls related to people walking around with guns. I don't know if that was the case with the guy you described, but it's very common.

So it's the cops job to investigate. I'm glad in the situation you described the gentleman was sent on his way, but sorry it happened.

Still everybody went about their business in the end.

In addition to the "paper that is suppose to be the law of the land" we also have court decisions.

LEO's are obligated by to follow those decisions.

I really don't think you want every LEO and judge deciding on his or her own as to how to interpret the Constitution...

That would lead to chaos.

Our system is far from perfect, but it's the best the world has ever known...

Hey, I live in Az where no CCW is required and open carry is legal. Prescott in particular is especially firearms friendly...

Each week I see some guy with a pistol on his hip out and about. I always give them a smile, and say hello to them and give them a nod.

That ought to tell you where my sympathy's lie.

I never open carry though... To many decades of concealment. It just doesn't feel right.

Have a great night!!

[TMB 1]

Cool...

As I said above often cops get calls related to people walking around with guns. I don't know if that was the case with the guy you described, but it's very common.

So it's the cops job to investigate. I'm glad in the situation you described the gentleman was sent on his way, but sorry it happened.

Still everybody went about their business in the end.

In addition to the "paper that is suppose to be the law of the land" we also have court decisions.

LEO's are obligated by to follow those decisions.

I really don't think you want every LEO and judge deciding on his or her own as to how to interpret the Constitution...

That would lead to chaos.

Our system is far from perfect, but it's the best the world has ever known...

Hey, I live in Az where no CCW is required and open carry is legal. Prescott in particular is especially firearms friendly...

Each week I see some guy with a pistol on his hip out and about. I always give them a smile, and say hello to them and give them a nod.

That ought to tell you where my sympathy's lie.

I never open carry though... To many decades of concealment. It just doesn't feel right.

Have a great night!!

Constitution is written in English no interpretation needed if you can read English.

[SVT-40]

Constitution is written in English no interpretation needed if you can read English.

And everyone interprets those words differently...

It's the system we have. Been in effect long before any of us were around...

Do you really believe over 200 years of court decisions and rulings are simply going to be discarded?

Thats not reality.

[TMB 1]

And everyone interprets those words differently...

It's the system we have. Been in effect long before any of us were around...

Do you really believe over 200 years of court decisions and rulings are simply going to be discarded?

Thats not reality.

Kind of makes you wonder how the law to prevent what happened during Katrina will be interpreted. Probably some other law or court ruling that can be interpreted to override in an emergency if they can't get the right interpretation.

[SVT-40]

Kind of makes you wonder how the law to prevent what happened during Katrina will be interpreted.

LOL..

So far so good...

Only time will tell!!!

Have a great night!!

[pacrat]

Don't you get weary of being so negative all the time?

It's really going to eat you from the inside out...

It's real clear that you lack objectivity and reason.

The hate and bias you have is simply sad.

As I said above. I really feel sorry for you.

Another pitiful projectionist post, because that's all you've got.

Doubly comical after I've used logical reasoning, objective evaluation of this, and all other topics, plus historical quotes, links, and well known facts, to support everything I've said.

Once more leaving you with nothing but "You a Hater" Wah Wah Wah snivel, as your only feeble position defense. Which as I, and others, have repeatedly pointed out, is just another lame obsfucatory deflection. Your repeat feeble attempts to draw attention from your own BS posts constantly being shredded and dragged into the light of truth really needs an update.

[pacrat]

[1]...Cops' primary objective is to get home alive and un-injured at the end of their shift. Any [resaonable]force necessary to achieve this goal is warranted. Can you blame them.


[2]...While the elitists publicly denounce any LEO excessive use of force, they hypocritically condone and support it as cops are the thin blue line that protects them from an untimely demise. All the most ardent anti 2A elitists have either private or publicly provided armed security. If they are so anti gun, lead by example, disarm your security detail, better yet get rid of them. Learn to live like Joe Citizen, unarmed, un-protected, dependent on LEO's that are only a 911 call 15 minutes away.

I parsed your quote into 2 sections because they cover 2 subjects.

[1]....FIFY by addition of [reasonable]. I don't know of anyone who saw the video. That believed beating up an old lady for the crime of telling a cop to go away. Was reasonable use of force. Do you?

How about the murders of unarmed citizens on Danziger Bridge, and then the cover-up. Reasonable or No?

What is being discussed in this thread is the multitude of UNREASONABLE USES OF FORCE. When there is absofreak'nlutely no danger to officers. Where they are either following illegal orders to break the law from their political masters [Katrina]. Or just because they can with impunity, because they are cops and know they will get away with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQqgVlk0NQ

Do you know anyone who has seen officer Slager shoot Walter Scott in the back eight times as he ran away. Then get on the radio and lie about what happened. Even going so far as to retrieve his taser from 20 yds away and "PLANT" it next to Scott's body as proof.

What say you, Reasonable or NO? I could show hundreds of links like Slager's, but why bother, we all know they exist.

Neither I, nor any honest citizen I know. Has any problem whatsoever with "truly" reasonable use of force situations. Up to and including a cop ending the life of a scumbag who "reasonably" deserves it. That is PSH, in my book.


[2]...I'm on board with that view 100%. Cops long ago embraced the "Us v Them" agenda of politicians. Now they are finally finding out that those same politicians they supported with campaign donations, and allowing themselves to be used for PR purposes to support anti 2A laws. Are treating them like useful idiots, whose usefulness is coming to an end.

You get what you pay for.

[AceGirlsHusband]

This would never happen in the first place, regardless of whom orders it. The feds won't enforce it and local cops would be more at risk.

Didn't we just see a video made during Katrina where that very thing happened?

[AceGirlsHusband]

In the outlying neighborhoods left high and dry by Katrina. There was no rioting or bandits. The thugs kicking down doors to steal citizens property.

Were the cops!

Sadly, most of those citizens, were really happy to see a LE presence.

For about 10 seconds.

That video made me ill. That should not have happened.

[Blade Gunner]

I parsed your quote into 2 sections because they cover 2 subjects.



[1]....FIFY by addition of [reasonable]. I don't know of anyone who saw the video. That believed beating up an old lady for the crime of telling a cop to go away. Was reasonable use of force. Do you?



How about the murders of unarmed citizens on Danziger Bridge, and then the cover-up. Reasonable or No?



What is being discussed in this thread is the multitude of UNREASONABLE USES OF FORCE. When there is absofreak'nlutely no danger to officers. Where they are either following illegal orders to break the law from their political masters [Katrina]. Or just because they can with impunity, because they are cops and know they will get away with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQqgVlk0NQ

Do you know anyone who has seen officer Slager shoot Walter Scott in the back eight times as he ran away. Then get on the radio and lie about what happened. Even going so far as to retrieve his taser from 20 yds away and "PLANT" it next to Scott's body as proof.



What say you, Reasonable or NO? I could show hundreds of links like Slager's, but why bother, we all know they exist.



Neither I, nor any honest citizen I know. Has any problem whatsoever with "truly" reasonable use of force situations. Up to and including a cop ending the life of a scumbag who "reasonably" deserves it. That is PSH, in my book.





[2]...I'm on board with that view 100%. Cops long ago embraced the "Us v Them" agenda of politicians. Now they are finally finding out that those same politicians they supported with campaign donations, and allowing themselves to be used for PR purposes to support anti 2A laws. Are treating them like useful idiots, whose usefulness is coming to an end.



You get what you pay for.

(1) I went back and rewatched all the videos you mentioned.
I also watched the Laquan McDonald shooting. I agree none of these actions where reasonable and they are also disgusting to watch. Every cop in those events thought they'd be protected by both the code of silence and the "reasonable" use of force defense.
As you point there are circumstances where a cop does use reasonable force to end a scumbag's life. Micheal Brown comes to mind. (Hands up
Don't shoot is one of the major urban myths of this century)

(2) I agree law enforcement are being played as useful idiots by our political elitists. (Many gun restrictions start out with no exemptions, then the police unions scream bloody murder and magically an exemption for them is added and the PAC campaign spigot continues to flow.) If officers become a political liability they are thrown under the bus like everyone else. Entire departments get put under Federal Oversight (punishing the good with the bad, sound familiar).




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[tamalpias]

With what is going on now in the US Virgin Islands I just want to see what excuses all the deniers would say. having your firearms taken from you no matter what their rational is still co fiscation in my book.

[Jimi Jah]

And everyone interprets those words differently...

And assigns different meanings to each word. Clinton did it best with "is".

There are no rules nor laws regarding the meanings of words in our language. It's what you want it to mean.

Language has no permanent or fixed definitions. It's free flowing and always evolving without any government oversite.

"It's what it means to me" is about the best defense against any charges here. When forced to prove the meaning of a word in a court of law, any dictionary can be used, even if they have different definitions.

[onelonehorseman]

Holy cow!

I haven't looked at this thread in weeks and just read through the last 4 pages of posts . . . . . what a train wreck.

IBF the lock!