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  • Vael
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 6

    Originally posted by Bobby Ricigliano
    So are you a member of the military or an LEO?

    Or just some sort of groupie?
    Navy CTT


    Did I pass the test?

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    • ARDude
      Veteran Member
      • May 2006
      • 2723

      Originally posted by Vael
      Point: DPD use of explosives was disturbing to me.

      Fact - DPD pressed a button and neutralized a threat remotely with explosives.

      Reality - minimization of 2nd amendment and other rights.

      I'm good with lethal force, I just don't like cops using bombs to kill citizens.

      You really need to re-read what I said before you go putting words in my mouth.

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      Point: if using explosives disturbed you...seek counseling

      Fact: using a button to neutralize a threat...safer for everyone, except shooter

      Reality: explain further

      It still doesn't change the fact that what DPD did was legal and the safest for all involved.

      Now that whatever type of explosive they used was successful, I believe more agencies will consider using them in similar situations in the future.

      Get used to it....
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      • 1911su16b870
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Dec 2006
        • 7654

        From DPD Chief Brown:



        Worried about him charging officers, Chief approved it and would do in again in the same circumstances.
        "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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        • 1911su16b870
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Dec 2006
          • 7654

          1 pound of C4 was used.



          Chief Brown explains his thought process during the event.
          "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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          I instruct it if you shoot it.

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          • TRICKSTER
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2008
            • 12438

            Originally posted by UberPatriot
            I'm not sure where I heard it but someone said it was a bomb inside of the cellphone the robot brought to the shooter.
            Probably blew his head off.
            You're thinking of the Mossad, not Dallas PD.


            Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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            • TRICKSTER
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2008
              • 12438

              So would people have the same problem if the PD drove up to the suspect in an armored vehicle and officers shot him through a gun port?

              Would people have the same problem if the robot was armed with a rifle and remotely used to roll up and shoot the suspect?


              Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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              • Vael
                Junior Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 6

                Originally posted by ARDude
                Point: if using explosives disturbed you...seek counseling

                Fact: using a button to neutralize a threat...safer for everyone, except shooter

                Reality: explain further

                It still doesn't change the fact that what DPD did was legal and the safest for all involved.

                Now that whatever type of explosive they used was successful, I believe more agencies will consider using them in similar situations in the future.

                Get used to it....
                You must be real thick. What's the point of having a police officers then, might as well make them national guard. Guess we better get used to it...



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                • TRICKSTER
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 12438

                  Originally posted by Vael
                  You must be real thick. What's the point of having a police officers then, might as well make them national guard. Guess we better get used to it...



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                  Maybe the point is that 99.99% of law enforcement's job does not involve neutralizing a threat.


                  Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups

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                  • blasterp7
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 544

                    Originally posted by Mentiroso
                    If you are implying I am not a real man, that is your opinion. But if a police department against one active shooter is the measure of a real man, then I am legendary son.
                    So in your opinion, Micah Johnson is a "legendary son". From your posts is sounds as though you are working yourself into the same frenzy that he apparently did (you should post less and read some of the news articles about your "legendary son")

                    I would advise against following his lead, as it sounds you are willing to do!

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                    • ARDude
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 2723

                      Originally posted by Vael
                      You must be real thick. What's the point of having a police officers then, might as well make them national guard. Guess we better get used to it...



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                      Police agencies ARE para-military organizations. Saying that they should not utilize certain equipment that YOU deem appropriate for the military only, is naive.

                      Granted if the police carpet bombed him, taking out a few blocks in the process, I too would be outraged.

                      I understand that you just don't like the use of explosives the way they were used in Dallas.

                      But again, if it's legal it's legal....and you call me thick....
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                      • UberPatriot
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 2069

                        Originally posted by Vael
                        Navy CTT


                        Did I pass the test?

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                        You did with me with your first comment.
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                        • ARDude
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2006
                          • 2723

                          Originally posted by palms
                          don't believe any of the press conference b.s. the statements are prepared by attorneys, p.r. guys and the top brass prior to,and anyone who talks is coached on what and what not to say, the p.d's lie just like ever other public department or office. the fact is the p.d. wanted him dead,soon, before someone of higher authority steps in and changes the plan and I don't blame them
                          Who would be higher than the Chief? The Governor? The President? They had plenty of time to intervene. They didn't, because the Chief made the right choice.

                          I agree, don't trust the "powers" all the time...you have to use your common sense.

                          I have some extra heavy tin foil if you need some...
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                          • stephewc
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1078

                            I wonder how long before cops get access to some aerial drones.

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                            • UberPatriot
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 2069

                              Originally posted by stephewc
                              I wonder how long before cops get access to some aerial drones.
                              Law enforcement agencies using drones in the U.S. (Map)


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                              • pacrat
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • May 2014
                                • 10283

                                Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                                Maybe the point is that 99.99% of law enforcement's job does not involve neutralizing a threat.
                                A very truthfull statement. I know 6 honorably retired LEO, that each have over 30 yrs on. None of which ever fired their service weapons while on duty. And they patrolled some of the crappiest ghettos in LA Cnty.

                                A dead turd, is a good turd. Boom and done, Cya

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