Haley has ND while demoing old school AK techniques...

[bigbully]

ya, that's pretty tricky editing to make it look like an accidental discharge...

They deserve an award!

Not to mention they must have recorded a sound alike to have him say "I should have never had that negligent discharge"

[ar15barrels]

Who is that anyways?

LOL.
Not sure if serious or trolling...

[hermosabeach]

https://youtu.be/PEdSrHuvmvE?t=221

[EspoMan]

LOL.
Not sure if serious or trolling...

I was serious. Why? Is he some YouTube star?

[GimpsUnlimited]

Brilliant: demonstrating AK finger discipline with a loaded chamber.

Oh, I am pretty certain that AK has an modified trigger. He was taken aback by the ease of the pull. That is why I don't eer want to ever modify my rifle triggers. They are heavy for a reason. ... well, except my Marlin 60 and its awful gritty pull and unpredictable break.

[451040]

The problem I have with these two things is that ...

they're obviously bad ideas.

[SuperSet]

It just goes to show that it's the denial that burns you.
Scott Reitz's safety note would be applicable here:

"“The more you work with firearms, the more dangerous you become just by the sheer percentages of how often you handle a firearm.” We are human, so we make mistakes. We are not perfect, so we make mistakes. We are not machines, but rather fallible organisms that become fatigued and are subject to brain fade. Not a single firearm devised can compensate for the human factor. The human can, but not the firearm."

[EspoMan]

He's a warfighter and a trainer.
If you are into shooting, training, military heroes, private contract gunslingers or guns, then you would know Travis.
Oh and made a company called Magpul popular. Small outfit but shows promise

I am into shooting and didn't know who he was. What does that mean? I ain't operator enough to be in the shooting sports? Please help.

[Capybara]

Never heard of him but NDs do not give me faith that he is a safe person to be around with guns. You can be as operator as you want but if you are unsafe, I want nothing to do with you.

[NapalmCheese]

Never heard of him but NDs do not give me faith that he is a safe person to be around with guns. You can be as operator as you want but if you are unsafe, I want nothing to do with you.

I heard of him because it would seem that 2/3s of calguns has his poster over their bed.

Why he didn't just use his accident as training tool speaks to his ability as a teacher.

[omgwtfbbq]

I have to be honest that I watched the video with the sound off, but it didn't seem necessary to have the weapon loaded or off safe to demonstrate these methods.

Someone please correct me if there was something in the dialogue that explains this.

[stix213]

Don't do demos with a finger inside the trigger guard without a chamber check immediately prior.

[Scratch705]

i can't tell if all the posters that say they don't know the name travis haley is trolling or actually lives under rocks/in caves...

[dwalker]

I really, really agree with this. I was recently talking with a shooting buddy and he was saying how likely it was he was going to have an AD at some point. Mostly because we are both around guns all the time, shoot a lot, and just generically handle a lot of different firearms, and it is very very easy to get a little too relaxed or sure of yourself and thats what leads to an AD/ND. We both agreed that it takes others to remind you here and there to be careful, because of this.

Haley was demonstrating what the training is and why he did not like it. Why he did so with a loaded chamber is honestly little bit beyond me, but maybe thats his habit. My actual surprise is that he didnt just own up to it and laugh it off, take the lesson and drive on. Instead he got pissed and went all denial. So I would say I am more concerned by his reaction than the actual event.

[dwalker]

I have to be honest that I watched the video with the sound off, but it didn't seem necessary to have the weapon loaded or off safe to demonstrate these methods.

Someone please correct me if there was something in the dialogue that explains this.

Not sure if it was explained in the video or not and I have no desire to watch it again to confirm, but the likely reason for the loaded/safety off weapon is that is exactly how some combloc fighters are trained to carry thier AK, with either of those two fingerbang holds on the weapon. The idea is that if your applying pressure to the trigger guard or have your finger cammed through the guard then if you trip, the barrel hits something, etc. then you less likely to ND. Yes, people are actually trained that way, in other countries.
What Haley was demonstrating is that both of those techniques require a tight firm grip on the weapon and that constant tension is just unreliable and tiring to the user. And what happens is exactly what happened, the gun slips while you have loosened your grip or you relax your hand to reposition your grip and bang goes the gun.