A Quote From Ronald Reagan

[Rainbow Warrior]

Discussion of a dead American politician has little relevance to current Activism and Politics.

You would think so.

[artb]

You seem to lack the ability to understand what I'm saying. Obama is more pro 2A by default than his Republican predecessors (RR, B1, and B2). By spewing rhetoric about gun laws (but not actually doing anything other than talking) he has spurred gun sales therefore making him more 2A. Get it now?

Had you made your point early on, you would not have generated nearly 80 posts so far.
Congratulations.

[LowThudd]

If that history was more complete I'd accept it, but omitting the origin of Operation Cyclone (Carter) or not correctly showing that not all the Muj turned into Taliban (Massoud) or implying that the Taliban popped up that early (a civil war that Clinton ignored had to be fought first) is far from a complete history.

And I'm going with Clinton was incompetent as he screwed up Somalia, Kenya, the hunt for Osama, Monica's blue dress, etc.

OK, I am in agreement now. They all EFFED up. lol I see a continuous problem with the Al Queda/Taliban situation, and Reagan had 8 years to make the best of it and failed, as did his successor. And Clinton put on the damned icing.

[Barang]

You seem to lack the ability to understand what I'm saying. Obama is more pro 2A by default than his Republican predecessors (RR, B1, and B2). By spewing rhetoric about gun laws (but not actually doing anything other than talking) he has spurred gun sales therefore making him more 2A. Get it now?

First point - b.o. is looking ways to limit further our 2A on top of what we currently have so he is not more pro 2A than Reagan, bush I and II.
Second point - How was panic buying made b.o. more pro 2A when he created it when he opened his mouth against 2A.
Your explaination is oxymoron and doesn't make sense.

I think his point is that despite Obama's desire to grab our guns, he has done far less to accomplish it than previous admins, some of whom supposedly were "on our side".

The Heller decision happened on Obama's watch which had nothing to do with him but still was a big win for us.

If that what he's trying to say then he's not making his point clear and doesn't make sense. Saying b.o. is "more pro 2a" is the equivalent to saying planned parenthood is "pro life". That's all.

[NOTABIKER]

Best president after JFK, If you were a adult and lived threw Jimmy Carter you though RR was pretty good. He loved his country and stood up for america. REFRESHING.

[LowThudd]

I did not buy RR's 'Acting' in movies, or TV(real life). His persona in Movies was more believable.

When asked about the cocaine that was brought back from nicaragua into LA, his famous line "Well, I just can't remember." came up. Didn't buy it then, don't buy it now.

[otalps]

You've proven nothing. Bravo.
Let me reiterate for you: Reagan, Bush I and Bush II have been more anti-2A than Obama has been.

Again, make a better argument countering my posit. Alas, you can't.



Go ahead and keep trying though.

[otalps]

The Heller decision happened on Obama's watch which had nothing to do with him but still was a big win for us.

No, No it did not.

[otalps]

OK, your right, not exactly. But he did back Ossama Bin Ladden, and the roots of Al Queda as well as a faction of the Mujahadeen which would become the Taliban shortly there after.

Reagan with the Mujahadeen who would be Talibanin the future.

He did not support Osama. Osama was a part of a mujahadeen group associated with pakistan at the time and a teenager. One of the guys in your pic was northern alliance. Doubt any of them ever became taliban judging by the historical accuracy displayed so far in this thread.

[artb]

Best president after JFK, If you were a adult and lived threw Jimmy Carter you though RR was pretty good. He loved his country and stood up for america. REFRESHING.

I remember when Governor Reagan aligned the California budget and offered every California resident a refund on their taxes.
If I remember correctly, the dum bass Californians voted it down. .... ..

After Jimma, Ronald Reagan brought new life to the economy and shut down excess government and it's abuse.
Employment rose, businesses flourished tax codes and bills fell to new lows.
Tax revenues soared, and of course the democrat congress spent, spent and even spent more.

We need another Ronald Reagan today.

[Wes C Addle]

hey a potato!

[Hugga Nugga]

Hypothetically, picture Ronald Reagan as president with a majority Republican Legislative branch and contast that with Obama as president with a majority Democrat Legislative branch. Is there any doubt what the outcome would be as it pertains to 2A issues? Really?

[Rainbow Warrior]

Best president after JFK, If you were a adult and lived threw Jimmy Carter you though RR was pretty good. He loved his country and stood up for america. REFRESHING.

JFK ? tell me why he was so great.

[LowThudd]

JFK ? tell me why he was so great.

At the very least he opened discussions with Dr. King, and acknowledged that changes needed to be made. May not have happened overnight, but he set the wheels in motion. As much as I dislike Johnson, he did continue to push an end to segregation. Perhaps if Kennedy had not been killed, the 60's may turned out much differently. Perhaps Kennedy would have seen early on that the war in Vietnam was NOT what he had intended by giving support to the South. There is no way to fully know how much he COULD have accomplished, but I feel as though he was headed the right way.

Also, at least he kept Nixon out of the WH for a few years. lol

[bountyhunter]

Best president after JFK, If you were a adult and lived threw (sic) Jimmy Carter you though RR was pretty good. He loved his country and stood up for america. REFRESHING.

I guess we had different perspectives at the time. Here's what I remember: when Jimmy Carter took office me and all the Viet Nam veterans were getting screwed and stalled by the VA for benefits and so Carter fired the head of the VA and told the new director to do right. It was the first time then or since that any president actually gave a crap about veterans. Reagan talked about defense and never met a DOD project he wouldn't fund, but the guys that had already served were invisible to him. Funny how the GOP presidents talk about supporting the vets but not one of them ever did anything.... well, except for Dubya Bush. Here's what he did: when congress tried to correct the screw in the law where disabled veterans have their disability pay SUBTRACTED from their retirement pay, Dubya said he would VETO that new law. Carter may not have been great at economics, but at least he gave a crap.