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  • CoolBeans2015
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2016
    • 21

    Originally posted by Lonestargrizzly
    Cruz/Paul-2016. I wish..
    That would be incredible.

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    • CoolBeans2015
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2016
      • 21

      Originally posted by gsparesa
      Envious? Shame on you! You should be congratulating him on his accomplishments in life. He could have turned out to be a "junky" and/or "flunky" like so many other rich kids, actors and sports figures. I would say that he is indeed a "self made billionaire". How many of us are bright enough to make 8+ billions from 40 million? How many of us are bright enough to invest it in the S&P 500 and not blow it on expensive cars and girls? Please hyperlink us the article where Trump himself said he was a "self made" what-ever? I would like some inspiration.
      Shame on you for making incorrect assumptions about me. I never said a bad word about Trump. On a side note there are indeed many things I dislike about Trump. But the fact he's rich or supposedly speaks his mind definitely aren't any of them.

      The question was asked if he was "self-made". My response was accurate: "that's a stretch". You might as well say George W. and Jeb Bush are self-made" as well.
      Last edited by CoolBeans2015; 02-17-2016, 3:21 PM.

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      • sfvpool
        Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 321

        Originally posted by Lonestargrizzly
        Cruz/Paul-2016. I wish..
        I would be happy to vote that ticket!
        Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual).
        Ayn Rand

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        • jeffrice6
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2006
          • 5171

          Originally posted by liberallyloaded
          South park got it right...

          Love that one, and always so true!
          WTB: S&W 617 4" 10 shot Pre-Lock

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          • The Gleam
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2011
            • 12587

            Originally posted by sfvpool
            I'm voting for Cruz.

            Negatives:
            * He's too religious for me

            Positives:
            * He understands the importance of a constitutional republic
            * He is a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment
            * He is not afraid to stand up for his beliefs
            * He is for the free market
            * He is for individual rights
            * He wants to cut taxes and abolish the IRS
            * He doesn't believe in man made "Climate Change"
            * I think he understands best how to defeat Islamic fundamentalism

            For me, the positives far outweigh the negative. We are at a point where we are at the edge of a cliff and can't wait for a perfect, or even near perfect, president. He is the closest of the Republican candidates to my beliefs as to what is best for our country and me.

            My order of preference:
            * Ted Cruz
            * Marco Rubio
            * Ben Carson
            * Donald Trump
            * John Kasich
            * Jeb Bush

            Same for me in every way.

            And I'm a lifelong conservative, Republican Atheist. Yet Cruz's approach and views on every topic on which he is guided by God and his religion, still runs parallel to how I see these same issues.

            My vote has not swayed since the beginning, and if the media would stop pumping Trump beacuse they really want him as the nom up against Hillary (he'll lose) and would instead give more meaningful time to Cruz, he would be winning this thing way ahead of November.

            They are merely using the Trump freak-show prop to nullify any kind of meaningful Republican vote by middleground voters or conservative Democrats (that happen to be devoutly religious, such as in the South or Midwest).
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            Originally posted by Librarian
            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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            • sfvpool
              Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 321

              Now with the issue of the next appointment(s) to the Supreme Court on the line, it is crucial we have someone who is a constitutionalist, a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment, and who we can trust to do what he says he will do - Ted Cruz.
              Individual rights are not subject to a public vote; a majority has no right to vote away the rights of a minority; the political function of rights is precisely to protect minorities from oppression by majorities (and the smallest minority on earth is the individual).
              Ayn Rand

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              • bonusweb
                Banned
                • Aug 2007
                • 1189

                Originally posted by The Gleam
                Same for me in every way.

                And I'm a lifelong conservative, Republican Atheist. Yet Cruz's approach and views on every topic on which he is guided by God and his religion, still runs parallel to how I see these same issues.

                My vote has not swayed since the beginning, and if the media would stop pumping Trump beacuse they really want him as the nom up against Hillary (he'll lose) and would instead give more meaningful time to Cruz, he would be winning this thing way ahead of November.

                They are merely using the Trump freak-show prop to nullify any kind of meaningful Republican vote by middleground voters or conservative Democrats (that happen to be devoutly religious, such as in the South or Midwest).
                Yes I'm sure his neocons/CFR advisers will help him pick a good supreme court justice.

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                • bonusweb
                  Banned
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1189

                  Originally posted by cbr9290318
                  Who are these people you speak of? Any legit articles with links?
                  Can a master debater who wore a paisley bathrobe to creepily stroll by the women’s wing of the dorm be the next president?

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                  • gsparesa
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 918

                    Originally posted by CoolBeans2015
                    The question was asked if he was "self-made". My response was accurate: "that's a stretch". You might as well say George W. and Jeb Bush are self-made" as well.
                    Your response is bogus. It's the venom in your implication that you should be ashamed. Here again are your words, "I think it's a stretch to call yourself "self made" when you inherited your Dad's real estate empire." You reek in the denial of ENVY. (FLUSH...down to the sewer with you!)

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                    • gsparesa
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 918

                      Originally posted by The Gleam
                      Same for me in every way. My vote has not swayed since the beginning, and if the media would stop pumping Trump beacuse they really want him as the nom up against Hillary (he'll lose) and would instead give more meaningful time to Cruz, he would be winning this thing way ahead of November. They are merely using the Trump freak-show prop to nullify any kind of meaningful Republican vote by middleground voters or conservative Democrats (that happen to be devoutly religious, such as in the South or Midwest).
                      Maybe the media is giving Trump time, what you call "pumping", because he keeps doing well enough in the poles and pri elections/caucasus. He was cast as a joke when he started running. Nobody believed that he would last this long, myself included. But look what he is doing without spending a lot of money, comparatively. Why does he do well in the poles?, because he is saying the things many American's are saying and thinking. I, like a previous poster, believe that Trump is the best person in the GOP to combat Hillary Clinton. I also think that president Obama also feels that way. Why would Obama single out Trump in his speech? The Dems are afraid of Trump because they know they will loose many democrat votes to Trump.
                      Last edited by gsparesa; 02-18-2016, 6:33 AM.

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                      • AceGirlsHusband
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 2651

                        I'm going to vote for Hillary or Sanders... just because I like inflicting pain on myself.

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                        • The Gleam
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 12587

                          Originally posted by bonusweb
                          Yes I'm sure his neocons/CFR advisers will help him pick a good supreme court justice.
                          I'm sure they will. Glad to have it.

                          You're welcome.

                          It's only a wonder at this time the damage that will be exerted by Obama's neocons/VPC advisors that help him pick a "good" supreme court justice.
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                          Originally posted by Librarian
                          What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                          If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                          • The Gleam
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 12587

                            Originally posted by gsparesa
                            Maybe the media is giving Trump time, what you call "pumping", because he keeps doing well enough in the poles and pri elections/caucasus. He was cast as a joke when he started running. Nobody believed that he would last this long, myself included. But look what he is doing without spending a lot of money, comparatively. Why does he do well in the poles?, because he is saying the things many American's are saying and thinking. I, like a previous poster, believe that Trump is the best person in the GOP to combat Hillary Clinton. I also think that president Obama also feels that way. Why would Obama single out Trump in his speech? The Dems are afraid of Trump because they know they will loose many democrat votes to Trump.
                            He's still a joke. Saying and doing are two different things and he has proven on many occasion he does not do what he says. He has a history of that. I like Trump as Trump - the man, and what he says; I like the fun reality show commenter, the big, boisterous loud guy in the bar blowing cash right and left on drinks for everybody, and the rich snot who answers to nobody; but no way as President and all of these traits I've cited will lead us into ruin.

                            Howard Stern would do well in the "polls" because of the things he says that nobody else is brave enough to vocalize; but I don't want a Howard Stern as President either.

                            And no - he has been losing in the polls or cutting it close in the REAL voting polls that matter, whereby he is not a cake-walk candidate - yet the online glib featurette polls that mean nothing but eyeballs for advertising paint a different picture. And he would lose to Hillary big; when it comes down to the last two, it will be wholly easy to paint her as the compassionate, caring, fair, well-liked and experienced politician that does not marginalize people by their race, culture, religion, gender, or body-shape. He would lose in a huge way, because the closet voters not expressing themselves at this time would never see Trump as a negotiator or policy maker that would be fair. They will only be voting on the inflammatory Trump quips they hear between segments of "Keeping Up With the Kardashians".

                            Any good marketing or PR person can tell you the above is absolutely true. Trump is his own wrecking ball, and that may have been the intent from the beginning - merely to act as a wretched wrench in the Republican corral, to support HIS GOOD FRIEND Hillary.

                            Trump will be a nightmare on so many facets for this country, it's unbelievable. He is the Ross Perot want-a-be, but doesn't have the substance.

                            As things play out, you will soon see Trump slip hard, real hard. That will be for all our sake.
                            Last edited by The Gleam; 02-18-2016, 10:02 AM.
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                            Originally posted by Librarian
                            What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                            If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                            • CoolBeans2015
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 21

                              Originally posted by gsparesa
                              Your response is bogus. It's the venom in your implication that you should be ashamed. Here again are your words, "I think it's a stretch to call yourself "self made" when you inherited your Dad's real estate empire." You reek in the denial of ENVY. (FLUSH...down to the sewer with you!)

                              Your response made me realize that its not Trump I dislike the most, but more so his followers.

                              Stop being such a drama queen. Its OK if someone criticizes the candidate whom you support.

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                              • bonusweb
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 1189

                                Originally posted by The Gleam
                                I'm sure they will. Glad to have it.

                                You're welcome.

                                It's only a wonder at this time the damage that will be exerted by Obama's neocons/VPC advisors that help him pick a "good" supreme court justice.
                                Establishment is establishment.



                                Clinton Outlines Continuation of Bush Policies Under Obama at CFR

                                Ex CFR director Dick Cheney at CFR
                                Last edited by bonusweb; 02-18-2016, 12:59 PM. Reason: The

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