Who will you be voting for & Why?

[bountyhunter]

I think we are doing that thing where we are saying the same thing. Im talking about the gdneral public. There should be millions of youths in the street rioting.

I actually went through that in the 60's. Not as much fun as it sounds.

Thd problem with Obamacare is that its fundamentAlly flawed but i wont go down that path.

It is, but my point is that the answer is SOME KIND of private program(s) which are better but both parties would have to work together to do that.

And i am fairly certain that my 401k cannot arbitrarily take my money. Its my money. You are talking about private pensions

But millions depend on those pensions. And MANY millions depend on SS. They automatically assume any "reform" is a screw job to cut their benefits and I don't blame them. It probably will be.

Is your obamacare line rhetoric? Because there are tons of realistic alternatives.

But how to get any viable alternative implemented when the GOPs goal is to make sure nothing good happens so they can get them thrown out of office.

[bonusweb]

What is wrong with Ted Cruz???

Ted Cruz talks a good game but surrounds himself with CFR/Neocon/Goldman Sachs types, even though he says he's against all that.

His presidency would include the worst of the Bush polices and bailouts.

http://www.libertyconservatives.com/ted-cruzs-neocon-problem/

[jeffrice6]

If you're not a troll why are you sending me PM's attacking my mother and continually trolling in the hunting and fishing subforum?

Lol ~

[cyberfish2]

Re: Social Security - At 76, it is 54% of my retirement income, so no, I don't want to see it cut, nor will I vote for anybody who proposes it.
The huge SS fund was sacrosanct for many years, until it became irresistible to the government to tap into it for uses it was never intended to cover, otherwise it would have stayed viable well into the future.
No matter how much money the government extracts from you, they will find a way to misuse it. That's a fact, Jack.
My Dad, who was an old fashioned country doctor, the kind that still made house calls in the middle of the night to people who sometimes could only pay him with a live chicken, or not at all, detested the idea of Medicare. To him, it was socialized medicine, pure and simple. He said once the government gets involved, there will be all kinds of abuse, and he was right.
So, on the topic of voting for who can fix this, I say give Trump a go at it. If he cuts my SS, I can always move to the trailer, and eat dog food. I hope he is a smart enough business man to leave SS benefits in place. At least, he's pro 2A.

[gsparesa]

Re: Social Security - At 76, it is 54% of my retirement income, so no, I don't want to see it cut, nor will I vote for anybody who proposes it.
The huge SS fund was sacrosanct for many years, until it became irresistible to the government to tap into it for uses it was never intended to cover, otherwise it would have stayed viable well into the future.
No matter how much money the government extracts from you, they will find a way to misuse it. That's a fact, Jack.
My Dad, who was an old fashioned country doctor, the kind that still made house calls in the middle of the night to people who sometimes could only pay him with a live chicken, or not at all, detested the idea of Medicare. To him, it was socialized medicine, pure and simple. He said once the government gets involved, there will be all kinds of abuse, and he was right.
So, on the topic of voting for who can fix this, I say give Trump a go at it. If he cuts my SS, I can always move to the trailer, and eat dog food. I hope he is a smart enough business man to leave SS benefits in place. At least, he's pro 2A.

I here that, and I don't even want to know what dog food tastes like. I recognize that SS now functions primarily as a safety net for retirees and the disabled, and provides death benefits to taxpayer dependents. However, I also think Trump is the best man for the job to tackle SS issues. Trump says "root out the fraud, make it more efficient, and ensure that the program is solvent." Do it Trump. FYI: The US taxpayers in United States pay $2.93 million every hour toward Foreign Aid in 2016.

Does the US have to spend $1.42 million every hour for Foreign Military Assistance? I think Trump has the right idea of charging foreign governments for US military intervention.

Trump doesn't share all the same views on the issues that I do. For example, Trump wants to build a wall between US and Mexico and have Mexico pay for it. People, we don't need the "Great wall of the United States", which will never work. Instead, lets sour the breast milk. Illegal aliens are criminals by the fact they have broken US law. I hate it when California refers to them as undocumented immigrants. The US should confiscate any bank accounts, homes and automobiles the criminal posses. Then ship them back to their country of origin. The money fines should go into SS to help keep it solvent. Yes, I'm pissed.

[Gonumber24]

Ha ha ha, I couldn't resist!

[Samuel Whittemore]

I dont have access to the numbers but initially it will take a loss there is no way around it. But if the rest of the society was pitching 2% into a well managed fund it would help offset that loss. I have no interest in cutting people off who have paid in.



Which makes no sense. 1300 a month is the average disbursement. What does that do for anyone?



It is a ponzi scheme and it needs to be reformed immediately. It is the greatest ripoff of all time and no one cares.

Along the same lines we have a bank that prints money at interest and collects an estimated $150b annually and has never been audited. Thats not a red flag? Banks are some of the most regulated entities but nope not the federal reserve.

Could you imagine if any other bank said no you cant look at my records and thats the end of it. Ill tell you what we did and you'll take our word for it.

Makes my blood boil no one even cares.

I care. I've been screaming "Abolish The Fed" for 10 years. That arrogant diabolical cad Ben Berskanky should have been drawn and quartered. Right along with Nixon for doing the bidding of the private banking cartel and taking us off the Gold Standard!

But since this topic is on who am I voting for? TRUMP. Make no mistake Trump is a circus baboon, and crooked like all the rest. But I HATE Cruz -- WAAAY to religious for me. Rubio is none to smart and I don't trust him as far as I can spit. BUT. the caveat being IF it comes down to it I'll be FORCED to vote for ANYONE that runs against the Hilly/Billy act.

At least if Trump wins we have someone that has some brushing idea of what the Constitution is about. Then again if it were Sanders and Trump it would be a hard choice because there's some of what Sanders says that I like a LOT. His 'get the money out of politics' and 'anti-lobbists' stuff is RIGHT ON. The rest of the socialist crap -- hmm, not so much. Still I'd vote for Trmup though. Because for me the GUNS are the most primary issue. Neck and neck with the Freedom of speech.

[bbodybill]

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[bbodybill]

Ed Royce...

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[sfvpool]

I'm voting for Cruz.

Negatives:
* He's too religious for me

Positives:
* He understands the importance of a constitutional republic
* He is a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment
* He is not afraid to stand up for his beliefs
* He is for the free market
* He is for individual rights
* He wants to cut taxes and abolish the IRS
* He doesn't believe in man made "Climate Change"
* I think he understands best how to defeat Islamic fundamentalism

For me, the positives far outweigh the negative. We are at a point where we are at the edge of a cliff and can't wait for a perfect, or even near perfect, president. He is the closest of the Republican candidates to my beliefs as to what is best for our country and me.

My order of preference:
* Ted Cruz
* Marco Rubio
* Ben Carson
* Donald Trump
* John Kasich
* Jeb Bush

[mossy]

i will probably vote Trump in the primaries, and vote for whoever the R nominee is as long as its not Jeb. nominating Jeb means i am staying home.

What is wrong with Ted Cruz???

he has gone full evangelical. still he would be better than Sanders or Clinton

[tbc]

Easy.

Sander in the primary election then any republican in the general election.


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[juelz919]

[QUOTE=mossy;17678511.
he has gone full evangelical. still he would be better than Sanders or Clinton[/QUOTE]

Negatives:
* He's too religious for me

Keep in mind he was campaigning in a really conservative religious state. And he won. That is an effective campaign. He's already started reeling it in.

I know you said you wanna vote for him i just wanna bring attention to it so it starts spreading that hes not as crazy as he seems

I've been a fan of him for years. He eats liberals for breakfast. An extremely competent debater, he will eat bernie or hillary for lunch and still have room for dessert.

Anytime people say there are no good republican candidates it makes me sick.

Kasich is probably the best realistic candidate IMO but he comes across as grumpy. Realistic solutions to basically every problem facing america but hes not catching on.

Cruz is my favorite now that rand is gone but as referenced a dozen times he has alienated the nonreligious population.

Rubio is a skilled politician and i like him but idk what he does better than kasich other than memorize better lines.

[bonusweb]

I'm voting for Cruz.

Negatives:
* He's too religious for me

Positives:
* He understands the importance of a constitutional republic
* He is a strong supporter of the 2nd amendment
* He is not afraid to stand up for his beliefs
* He is for the free market
* He is for individual rights
* He wants to cut taxes and abolish the IRS
* He doesn't believe in man made "Climate Change"
* I think he understands best how to defeat Islamic fundamentalism

For me, the positives far outweigh the negative. We are at a point where we are at the edge of a cliff and can't wait for a perfect, or even near perfect, president. He is the closest of the Republican candidates to my beliefs as to what is best for our country and me.

My order of preference:
* Ted Cruz
* Marco Rubio
* Ben Carson
* Donald Trump
* John Kasich
* Jeb Bush

All his neocons CFR/Neocon advisers don't bother you? Or do you just ignore that.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/21764-ted-cruz-s-closest-counsellors-are-neocon-cfr-vips

https://youtu.be/V9K9Xedk5eM

[homelessdude]

There is no one running that truly fits what I want. It is a game of give and take with the handful that have a chance of winning. The worst of course are the two Dems The other five are personal decisions that each of us has to make. Who I would like to win and who I think will win are different at this point but it is still early.