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  • owenv
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 294

    Obama's order simplified

    Basically, he doesn't want "weekend warriors" setting up at gun shows without being licensed and doing background checks on buyers. His order directs ATF to enforce already existing law which has been overlooked on many occasions as they don't have enough agents to troll the shows. That will change with more agents being hired. He can't change the law although his big-eared conference implied that he did. At least Biden thought so.
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    Wes C Addle
    Banned
    • Apr 2015
    • 1867

    I have to go through a background check when I purchase a firearm, I don't see why someone else should be exempt just because they live in a free state. I get the counter-argument about incremental encroachment but I see this as a common sense approach. If you can pass a background check then no worries.

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    • #3
      skyscraper
      Calguns Addict
      • Feb 2011
      • 5198

      Originally posted by Wes C Addle
      I have to go through a background check when I purchase a firearm, I don't see why someone else should be exempt just because they live in a free state. I get the counter-argument about incremental encroachment but I see this as a common sense approach. If you can pass a background check then no worries.
      The answer is not for ALL of us to follow the same "common sense" rules... The answer is to get rid of these nanny rules requiring us to go through the govt to sell private property.

      There are more problems with this than you understand.

      PS- do you realize you just used a liberal anti-gun talking point on a gun forum? ("common sense). What is common sense about laws that wouldnt have prevented San Bernadino, Aurora, Oregon, etc....?
      Last edited by skyscraper; 01-05-2016, 1:18 PM.

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      • #4
        poriggity
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 891

        Originally posted by skyscraper
        The answer is not for ALL of us to follow the same "common sense" rules... The answer is to get rid of these nanny rules requiring us to go through the govt to sell private property.

        There are more problems with this than you understand.
        Agreed 1000000% sure I can pass a bg check and have numerous times. Its not about that. Its about the govt. Infringment on the people to buy and sell their private property. Regardless of whether or not mandatory bg checks are in place for the entire nation, do you really think that's going to stop criminals from obtaining guns??

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        • #5
          omgwtfbbq
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 3445

          I think the only thing that is going to really impact people is going after NFA items bought through a trust or corporation which doesn't require a BG check. That's more so something that happens in free states but I know some CA residents use NFA trusts as well.
          "Far and away the best prize life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." - Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            1CavScout
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 3234

            Originally posted by Wes C Addle
            I have to go through a background check when I purchase a firearm, I don't see why someone else should be exempt just because they live in a free state. I get the counter-argument about incremental encroachment but I see this as a common sense approach. If you can pass a background check then no worries.
            Stay in California. We don't want you in our free states.
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            • #7
              BlackReef
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 3616

              Originally posted by Wes C Addle
              I have to go through a background check when I purchase a firearm, I don't see why someone else should be exempt just because they live in a free state. I get the counter-argument about incremental encroachment but I see this as a common sense approach. If you can pass a background check then no worries.
              Are you serious?

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              • #8
                Cody805
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 1229

                Originally posted by Wes C Addle
                I have to go through a background check when I purchase a firearm, I don't see why someone else should be exempt just because they live in a free state. I get the counter-argument about incremental encroachment but I see this as a common sense approach. If you can pass a background check then no worries.
                Wow.... All I can say is wow

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                • #9
                  Cannon-Arms
                  In Memoriam
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1389

                  Originally posted by Wes C Addle
                  I have to go through a background check when I purchase a firearm, I don't see why someone else should be exempt just because they live in a free state. I get the counter-argument about incremental encroachment but I see this as a common sense approach. If you can pass a background check then no worries.
                  With this statement, it appears you've drank the liberal cool aid.

                  At minimum, we should be pre '68 with gun laws. and working to get pre '34.

                  It's a right, not a privilege.

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                  • #10
                    Dooligan
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 8326

                    Originally posted by Wes C Addle
                    I have to go through a background check when I purchase a firearm, I don't see why someone else should be exempt just because they live in a free state. I get the counter-argument about incremental encroachment but I see this as a common sense approach. If you can pass a background check then no worries.
                    Yeah...eff state's rights...who needs em.
                    "Let criminals out. Let illegals in. Let boys in the girls bathrooms. Condemn police officers. Abort babies. Pervert the children. Condemn Christians. Accept barbarity in the name of Islam. Overtax the hard working people. Coddle the lazy. That's the liberal way." -from a posting on "Yahoo"

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                    • #11
                      Cannon-Arms
                      In Memoriam
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1389

                      Originally posted by omgwtfbbq
                      I think the only thing that is going to really impact people is going after NFA items bought through a trust or corporation which doesn't require a BG check. That's more so something that happens in free states but I know some CA residents use NFA trusts as well.

                      No point in having a trust if they've removed the CLEO sign off. Just get yer NFA items to yourself.

                      The trust angle was all about sidestepping that.

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                      • #12
                        RonnieP
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 2750

                        Will these new FBI hires be boots on the ground in Chicago, Detroit, Compton, Oakland, Phily, NYC, SF and other bastions of liberal gun control?
                        Trump 2016

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                        • #13
                          BigBronco also not a Cabinetguy
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 7079

                          While this does nothing to stop criminals it puts the brakes on selling a gun or giving one to a life long friend or your best cousin in most of the country.
                          "Life is a long song" Jethro Tull

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                          • #14
                            Cannon-Arms
                            In Memoriam
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 1389

                            Originally posted by RonnieP
                            Will these new FBI hires be boots on the ground in Chicago, Detroit, Compton, Oakland, Phily, NYC, SF and other bastions of liberal gun control?
                            The money for these new hires has to be budgeted by congress. Lets see what happens. There's many programs in the BATFe that are unfunded.

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                            • #15
                              kapache
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2595

                              Isn't this what we all undergo here in California?

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