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Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison
The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850) -
At 1:33 minutes you see a mall shopper hide behind an elephant display...moments later he's shot in the head.
If you witnessed this in real life and had a firearm would you really take off? That wouldn't haunt you for the rest of your life? I admit I'm no hero and if I were moving in the direction of the gunfire I'm certain my pants would be soiled but all evil needs in order to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Maybe the fight or flight instinct is an individual response.Last edited by BC9696; 12-09-2015, 4:41 PM.Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000.
The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.Comment
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100% legal, provided it is unloaded and in a locked container.
626.9. (a) This section shall be known, and may be cited, as the
Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1995.
(b) Any person who possesses a firearm in a place that the person
knows, or reasonably should know, is a school zone, as defined in
paragraph (1) of subdivision (e), unless it is with the written
permission of the school district superintendent, his or her
designee, or equivalent school authority, shall be punished as
specified in subdivision (f).
(c) Subdivision (b) does not apply to the possession of a firearm
under any of the following circumstances:
(1) Within a place of residence or place of business or on private
property, if the place of residence, place of business, or private
property is not part of the school grounds and the possession of the
firearm is otherwise lawful.
(2) When the firearm is an unloaded pistol, revolver, or other
firearm capable of being concealed on the person and is in a locked
container or within the locked trunk of a motor vehicle.
This section does not prohibit or limit the otherwise lawful
transportation of any other firearm, other than a pistol, revolver,
or other firearm capable of being concealed on the person, in
accordance with state law.
Currently, ammunition may not be possessed on school grounds (without CCW, LE status, etc.), but that will be changing shortly.Last edited by Dutch3; 12-09-2015, 6:49 PM.Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.Comment
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I work at a school. My own children are grown and no longer attend there, but I don't think I could sit idly by if some a-hole showed up and started popping rounds at kids.
If I had the opportunity to retrieve my (legally stored) firearm, load it and end the threat, I think I would do it. My car is usually only a couple of steps away from my office door.
I'd shoot the guy in the back through a window if need be, with my phone on speaker with 911 dispatch. We don't want there to be any 'accidents'.Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.Comment
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What car doesn't have fold down seats with locks that use the ignition key?Comment
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How much Force on Force training have you taken.... The classes I took reset my OODA loop....
One person against unknowns in a mall are bad odds.... Be a good witness...
Once you make it out of a Mall, the reenter would be a challenge...Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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But in CA, you can use deadly force to defend the lives of others... My understanding of the law is that you would not face charges should you re enter the mall while armed....Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)
Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
(thanks to Jeff Cooper)Comment
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Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
The U.S. city with the most restrictive gun laws in the nation, Washington, D.C., has the highest murder rate at 24 per 100,000.
The state with the most unrestrictive gun regulations, Vermont, has the lowest murder rate at 0.48 per 100,000.Comment
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