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  • #16
    SlickerGunZ76
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 8

    Originally posted by BC9696
    Okay...seeking educated legal opinions. Let's say you are in the habit of leaving a legally locked/stored firearm in your vehicle even though your county refuses to issue CCW permits. Your concerned that the threat of a jihadist attack (which have impacted too many Americans on US soil to count during Obama's watch and attacks appear to be increasing) may leave you and others in harm's way. So you keep a firearm (legally) in your car "just in case."

    Now you're at the mall, work or some other place when a gunman/men opens fire. People are dying. The right thing to do is stop the murderers but that's technically illegal. But hey...so is what they are doing. Is it not in society's interest for everyone to run to their cars and retrieve their weapons to try and stop the attackers killing unarmed civilians, even if they cannot get a CCW for 'political" reasons?

    dont bother bro. you live in California... not Texas or some other strong conservative state...

    if you do this here, the all of the LEOs will be open firing on you once they arrive. majority of the LEOs in this state are libtards, they dont want see a conservative Christian helping others. The Gestapo doesnt like that.

    and besides, how in hell would your ar15 with a 10 rd mag and a bullet button help you in a terrorist attack??? you will be dead before you try to insert the bullet button tool in the hole...

    you are much better off moving to a free state.

    ps: 99% of the the population in this state are brain-dead liberals. even if you do this to help others, the zombies will think you are a "terrorist" as well. they have been brainwashed since birth thinking anyone with guns is a bad man (except for police). all of the liberal swag punks and hipsters with their tight jeans will run to the police claiming that YOU are part of the terrorist organization too, thus, the police will shoot as you as well... it's not worth it bro.
    Last edited by SlickerGunZ76; 12-09-2015, 1:49 PM.

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    • #17
      pluke the 2
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 1926

      Originally posted by SlickerGunZ76
      dont bother bro. you live in California... not Texas or some other strong conservative state...

      if you do this here, the all of the LEOs will be open firing on you once they arrive. majority of the LEOs in this state are libtards, they dont want see a conservative Christian helping others. The Gestapo doesnt like that.

      and besides, how in hell would your ar15 with a 10 rd mag and a bullet button help you in a terrorist attack??? you will be dead before you try to insert the bullet button tool in the hole...

      you are much better off moving to a free state.
      2nd post on teh calguns

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      • #18
        D.A.V.I.D.
        ——
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2015
        • 1876

        Originally posted by pluke the 2
        i thought, you cannot have a handgun in your vehicle unless you are going to or from certain specified activities, such as a shooting range. You can't keep a handgun in your vehicle on a daily basis, locked and unloaded or not.

        unless you have your ccw, correct?
        You can have a gun in you car at any time as long as its unloaded and in a locked container, i regularly carry a gun in a locked container in a trunk with loaded magazines in the vehicle which isn't required to be legal but I don't want to be in any "gray area" or whatever you want to call it. I spoke to two sheriffs about this years ago before i started doing so to make sure i had correct info. One said you could have the magazines in the locked case with the gun but your better off not doing that (some leo might give you **** about it). For consideration "locked container" doesn't apply to your trunk if you have access to the trunk from inside your vehicle (fold down seats).

        Editing - not any time, don't want to have one in the trunk at a school etc.

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        • #19
          SlickerGunZ76
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2015
          • 8

          Originally posted by pluke the 2
          2nd post on teh calguns
          read my earlier thread..

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          • #20
            Untamed1972
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Mar 2009
            • 17579

            Originally posted by reverser
            I live in Berkeley and since I can't have a CCW, I just plan on using a hippy as a human shield. I mean, two birds, one stone.
            They make the best shields because their self-righteous hatred of firearms and love of Gov't makes them bullet proof right?
            "Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

            Quote for the day:
            "..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun

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            • #21
              pluke the 2
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 1926

              Originally posted by SlickerGunZ76
              read my earlier thread..
              okie!

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              • #22
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                Originally posted by reverser
                I live in Berkeley and since I can't have a CCW, I just plan on using a hippy as a human shield. I mean, two birds, one stone.
                How can you tell the hippies apart from the homeless and junkies?
                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                • #23
                  wpage
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 6071

                  Be smart walk away...
                  God so loved the world He gave His only Son... Believe in Him and have everlasting life.
                  John 3:16

                  NRA,,, Lifer

                  United Air Epic Fail Video ...

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u99Q7pNAjvg

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                  • #24
                    OlderThanDirt
                    FUBAR
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 5885

                    I know someone that did something like this in the 1970s. With a violent armed robbery taking place at a 7/11 in Los Angeles, he was able to get to his truck and retrieve a rifle and shoot the armed robber through the front window. He was not charged with any crime and was unofficially commended for the nice head shot.
                    We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                    Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                    • #25
                      P5Ret
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 6375

                      Originally posted by JDay
                      How can you tell the hippies apart from the homeless and junkies?
                      That's easy the homeless and junkies all smell better, and most have shoes not sandals.

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                      • #26
                        Robert458
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 84

                        Going back to get your gun to defend innocent people is legal. If no cops are around yet (which they most likely will not be), and nobody is shooting back, then who is going to stop you even if you do get confused with a bad guy?

                        I'm not saying to do it or not if a mass shooting ever happened, but it would be legal and in my opinion very heroic. It's very risky to do it, as others have said but the people who's lives you save will thank you afterwards. Hypothetically, let's say it was you who gets unlucky and is in the worst position during this time, not only unarmed but not able to escape, you would be hoping for anybody to help you most likely.

                        A gun locked in a case inside a car is legal by the way, as long as it is unloaded.
                        Last edited by Robert458; 12-09-2015, 10:26 PM.

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                        • #27
                          bsg
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 25954

                          tagged.

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                          • #28
                            jkody
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 1081

                            If I can get to my car, I'm gone. No point in going back. That is LEO problem to deal with. My CCW exists as a last ditch effort.

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                            • #29
                              Oceanbob
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 12720

                              Originally posted by Robert458

                              A gun locked in a car is legal by the way, as long as it is unloaded.
                              A handgun in a car must be in a locked case. Like a briefcase. With locks. It must be unloaded in that locked case. Ammo can be in the same locked case but cannot in inserted or loaded into the handgun.

                              Options are a trunk. A trunk qualifies as a locked case as long as the Seats don't fold down from inside the car. Again, ammo can be in the same trunk.

                              A center console and a glovebox Do Not qualify as a locked container.

                              Ammo can be stored anywhere in the car.

                              May the Bridges I burn light the way.

                              Life Is Not About Waiting For The Storm To Pass - Its About Learning To Dance In The Rain.

                              Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).

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                              • #30
                                TeddyBallgame
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 5732

                                Originally posted by pluke the 2
                                i thought, you cannot have a handgun in your vehicle unless you are going to or from certain specified activities, such as a shooting range. You can't keep a handgun in your vehicle on a daily basis, locked and unloaded or not.

                                unless you have your ccw, correct?
                                Originally posted by Oceanbob
                                A handgun in a car must be in a locked case. Like a briefcase. With locks. It must be unloaded in that locked case. Ammo can be in the same locked case but cannot in inserted or loaded into the handgun.

                                Options are a trunk. A trunk qualifies as a locked case as long as the Seats don't fold down from inside the car. Again, ammo can be in the same trunk.

                                A center console and a glovebox Do Not qualify as a locked container.

                                Ammo can be stored anywhere in the car.

                                that's the way i've always interpreted the law...i have a silver combination case i keep my firearm in along with the loaded magazine, not in the gun well...i've carried it right on the passenger seat alongside me while traveling...it's a 3-digit combo and i have the first two already in place, so it's just a matter of bringing the last digit into place...best i can do under the law, but, it's better than nothing

                                it was explained to me that the law concerning to and from the range only applied when you're on foot, not traveling in your vehicle (locked backpack)...not sure how it applies for people who use public transportation
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