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  • fishnbeer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 761

    Looking at that map it looks like they are making a stand at jenkinson lake. Dozer lines and fuel breaks cut all around there. If the line holds, it should stop most of the westward and northern expansion

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    • Cali-Glock
      In Memoriam
      • Mar 2005
      • 3890

      Originally posted by user120312
      Found some incident maps which appear to be updated periodically. Link to most recent 8/22 maps:

      Main archive page:

      ETA, haven't researched this one fully but it appears to be a .gov resource for same:

      It may take some rummaging around but I believe those are high resolution maps Cali-Glock is seeking... sample airops map from this morning...
      https://ftp.wildfire.gov/public/inci...24030_0823.pdf
      Thank you!

      Your first two links look to be sub-directories of the main folder which contain all the official working docs for the fire. The daily IAP (Incident Action Plan) is supposed to be the best information available anywhere - that is what the firefighters are using day-to-day.

      I'll check out the other wildfire.gov folders as well! - Thanks again!
      1 Corinthians 2:2

      "Orwell was an Optimist" - Cali-Glock
      "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal Reynolds

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      • Cali-Glock
        In Memoriam
        • Mar 2005
        • 3890

        Originally posted by user120312
        I see a fair amount of debarked charred trees on logging trucks in Oregon and even ran into some in the areas north of Redding last year . Even if not seeing them, if one happens to be following such a rig, one can smell it.

        IDK how it is in CA but getting loggers in ASAP to harvest standing dead fire trees is IMO good use of resources, cleans up the terrain of potential ready to re-burn dead fuel and preps for reforestation. It's healthy forest management. Let the loggers feed. They're pros at what they do.

        Sorry to read about the retired contractor's place burning up, man that sucks balls. IME, usually mountain folk tend to band together in times of adversity, at least in the areas I'd scouted to live; they're pretty tight-knit. If so, people share.

        Caught an interesting development on Twitter, night operations combining backfiring and water drops via helicopter....


        Looks like Strawberry is safe so far, eastward progress has slowed to a crawl. Hope the weather gods smile a bit; we could use a break.
        I talked with him this morning, he is in good spirits, and you are correct we are a tight-knit community something will work out. It was just kind of an eye-opening reminder that things can always be worse.
        1 Corinthians 2:2

        "Orwell was an Optimist" - Cali-Glock
        "May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one." - Mal Reynolds

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        • j15w
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 869

          Spot fires all over Jenkinson right now...



          Jenkinson Lake cam showing moisture... not sure if rain or tanker drops, or just a sprinkler.

          Last edited by j15w; 08-23-2021, 1:46 PM.
          It was just an old plywood boat, with a '75 Johnson, with electric choke. A young boy, two hands on the wheel, I can't replace the way it made me feel.

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          • Section 101
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 244

            Originally posted by user120312
            I see a fair amount of debarked charred trees on logging trucks in Oregon and even ran into some in the areas north of Redding last year . Even if not seeing them, if one happens to be following such a rig, one can smell it.

            IDK how it is in CA but getting loggers in ASAP to harvest standing dead fire trees is IMO good use of resources, cleans up the terrain of potential ready to re-burn dead fuel and preps for reforestation. It's healthy forest management. Let the loggers feed. They're pros at what they do.

            Sorry to read about the retired contractor's place burning up, man that sucks balls. IME, usually mountain folk tend to band together in times of adversity, at least in the areas I'd scouted to live; they're pretty tight-knit. If so, people share.

            Caught an interesting development on Twitter, night operations combining backfiring and water drops via helicopter....


            Looks like Strawberry is safe so far, eastward progress has slowed to a crawl. Hope the weather gods smile a bit; we could use a break.
            My family has several places in strawberry. They are currently using the meadow there for operations.
            Last edited by Section 101; 08-23-2021, 1:56 PM.

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            • Tarmy
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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              • Feb 2016
              • 3602

              Wilson Protector .45, Springer 9mm Loaded, Franchi Instinct SL .12ga. and some other cool stuff for the kiddos...

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              • Jason_2111
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 3830

                The map at night looks like good progress holding it back... Then in the morning it's more "Oh crash".

                This worry is wearing me out.

                But it gives me an idea for a t-shirt...

                2020: covid
                2021: hold my beer

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                • Section 101
                  Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 244

                  Originally posted by Jason_2111
                  The map at night looks like good progress holding it back... Then in the morning it's more "Oh crash".

                  This worry is wearing me out.

                  But it gives me an idea for a t-shirt...

                  2020: covid
                  2021: hold my beer
                  The wind has been from the east at night slowing it.

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                  • Huntsprig
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 1111

                    Damn it.




                    "I think our governments will remain virtuous for many centuries; as long as they are chiefly agricultural; and this will be as long as there shall be vacant lands in any part of America. When they get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, they will become corrupt as in Europe."

                    Thomas Jefferson

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                    • user120312
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 4082

                      The eastern flank is burning in virgin territory pretty much, with the 2019 Caples fire scar north of Silver Lake being only a small impediment. It's also pretty sparsely populated away from the 50 corridor and given the fire priorities my bet is they'll let it run.

                      On satellites, the SAR site I use gives one the option of using more accurate location-wise imagery but imagery that is more latent time-wise MODIS/VIRS, as well as less accurate, but more real time GOES imagery. The NOAA GOES image database is updated five or six times an hour so pretty fast but how that consistently propagates to the consolidating sites I'm still working on. It is faster than the MODIS/VIRS runs.

                      Forex, I pulled up a GOES matrix on the Caldor fire and the images are timestamped only ten minutes ago.
                      Here's a sample setup, currently slaved to the eastern fire flank and showing only GOES imagery.

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                      • Deadon
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 9975

                        The smoke is insane here. School was canceled.
                        Lions not sheep.

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                        • user120312
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 4082

                          Nature's bad luck, the whole Tahoe/Reno region is getting hammered with smoke off the Caldor and Dixie fires, being kinda stuck in the middle.

                          Check the AQI from the fire areas versus the Tahoe/Reno area...

                          Here's the current Carson City meter:

                          Source:
                          This map shows fine particle pollution (PM2.5) from wildfires and other sources. It provides a public resource of information to best prepare and manage wildfire season. Developed in a joint partnership between the EPA and USFS.

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                          • Jason_2111
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2010
                            • 3830

                            This afternoon I watched the flight radar... Got to see big tankers drop load after load on "my hot spot"... A very welcome sight!

                            Might just make it through this.

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                            • Jason_2111
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 3830

                              Finally got some news that made me relax a little.

                              Just looking at zoom.earth this morning at 5:30am, I shouted HOLY ****, and immediately went into a super-sour mood. The hotspot immediately threatening The Freedom Bunker (tm) appeared to be jumping the eastern bulldozer line and making a bee-line to my front door.

                              After several hours of freak-out, we got a call from a buddy who's actually working that line, and he said it was a controlled burn, the line was holding.

                              Y'all probably heard my sigh of relief from wherever you are.... I passed out for 4 hours, and woke up with a migraine. BUT... much better news.

                              Apparently, and this is just one man's opinion who's busting his *** trying to save all of the houses in the area, that CalFire grossly mis-managed this, and the HotShots showed up and got a handle on things Ricky-tick.
                              Whether true or not, I'm thankful for whomever is working up there... we're seeing a lot of good progress.

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                              • JagerDog
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • May 2011
                                • 13163

                                That seems to be CalFire's MO as of late. Dixie should have been put out when it was a few acres.
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