Local Big5 = idiots

[olhunter]

....I would complain to the manger or someone higher up, that was some racist BS that we know Big 5 doesn't want to be attached to.

So if they decide not to sell firearms to "colored folk", shop somewhere else? Or do you mean the 11 day DROS?

lol...how is that 'racist'? OP never mentioned anything about his 'race', just his immigration status. He could be a red-headed Canadian with freckles.

I like Big 5. Get my merino wool socks there for $3.99 on sale.

[ham]

You need to satisfy both state and federal requirements. Sometimes there are overlaps in acceptable documentation, and sometimes there are not.

For example, the state of CA requires the following for a handgun purchase:

http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php#33G

While the feds require the following for aliens for all purchases:

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#aliens-purchase

-- Michael

hmm I didn't think of using my pay stubs for residency proof. good to know.

[orangeusa]

I've posted this before, but the manager at Orange Big 5 threw me out of the store for nicely asking him if I could put a pile of CALGUNS flyers on the gun counter.

So **** THEM. I've never had a positive experience at the store in Orange.
Yes, I go once every 2 years to buy a $25 watch that would cost me $60 anywhere else. (Umm, I'm so irritated by these 'tards' that I'll probably stop that also).

Little 5 is so weak, their ammo prices are DOUBLE what even the worst priced ammo is.

So, I HOPE they go out of business.

[Speedpower]

All this for buying a shotgun? a long gun purchase only needs current driver's license, car registration or Utility bills are not required.

[ham]

All this for buying a shotgun? a long gun purchase only needs current driver's license, car registration or Utility bills are not required.

thats if your a U.S. Citizen. Resident Aliens (like us) have to provide additional information to prove 90 days residence.

[Rhythm of Life]

Zombies is an understatement. At least a zombie will notice you're there. I'm lucky if 25% of the time I get a sideways glance. I love standing at the counter just looking at stuff for 15 minutes without anyone asking if I need assistance. I hate speaking up and asking for help because I always get the impression I'm bothering them.

Stop acting like a child and ask if you need help. People aren't mind readers. For all they know your just another JA who wants to stare at guns for an hour but not actually buy anything.

[Lead Waster]

Why don't you ask him "where in your policy does it ask for original? if there is a policy like such, your management need to update because the world is moving forward and most people are doing their banking/bills/buying through the Internet."

To their credit, after they rejected my printouts, the sales-kid gave me a printout of what they were allowed to accept, and highlighted the part that said "No internet printouts, originals only". Which is impossible with eBills as there is no "original". However, since he gave me the sheet, I was able to use it as a guide to hobble together documentation that worked, since I'm a slob and had some misplaced bills at home.

[Mr310]

Try the one in Santa Monica if you really want a kick.

[mif_slim]

To their credit, after they rejected my printouts, the sales-kid gave me a printout of what they were allowed to accept, and highlighted the part that said "No internet printouts, originals only". Which is impossible with eBills as there is no "original". However, since he gave me the sheet, I was able to use it as a guide to hobble together documentation that worked, since I'm a slob and had some misplaced bills at home.

Yeah, that pretty much sums it. Did you check the date that policy was written? I bet 1996 when AOL 1.0 was HOT!

[zfields]

Wow, Ive always had good experiences at big 5 buying ammo, or the one firearm purchase I made.

Also, cute girl working the counter didnt help, but when she took down the mossberg I was looking at, and racked it like it should be, I swear I had a half chub.

[ERdept]

Wow, Ive always had good experiences at big 5 buying ammo, or the one firearm purchase I made.

Also, cute girl working the counter didnt help, but when she took down the mossberg I was looking at, and racked it like it should be, I swear I had a half chub.

Ohh, yeah. My store always has at least one, sometimes two very cute girls that wear business clothes, but 2 sizes too small. everything it tight, pushed up and out.

They know they look cute too.

[Ksmash01]

uhhh its Big 5 (I call 'em big lots), they are all really bad when it comes to the firearms portion of the store. I can never get a straight answer on pricing over the phone for ammo, they always confuse the caliber numbers for prices on the ammo boxes.

So if they decide not to sell firearms to "colored folk", shop somewhere else? Or do you mean the 11 day DROS?

Which Big 5 do you shop at?

It's weird though, because there's a specific section on the DROS for Resident Aliens, which you and I both are.

I'm constantly amazed how hard it is to find 3 months of anything, bank statements, phone bills etc, but I'll tell you this:

The only reason I have paper bills sent to me anymore is solely to complete DROS checks. And they don't like Mobile phone bills either.

Big 5 ARE stupid, but that's why they're cheap.

You pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

You'll have to pay a bit more for a LGS that knows what it's doing.

I know what I'm doing...It's a shame you allow yourself to believe that everyone that works for the company is stupid. Your post indicates that you've never dealt with me...

I've pretty much had nothing but good experiences from my local Big 5 ( Dublin ) over the last 10 or so years. : shrug :

If you have credit card statements, those also satisfy the federal 90-day requirements. Feds require "original documentation":

http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

20(c)

Acceptable documentation to prove 90-day continuous residency must be original documentation (e.g. utility bills, current bank statements, rent receipts, mortgage payments, lease agreements, personal property tax bills, documents issued by Federal, State, or local government agencies, first-class mail issued by government agency, insurance policies, or bill with current address or major credit card bill.

-- Michael

You've probably dealt with me. I was an assistant at Dublin for 3 years. I've sold many a gun there...

for what its worth, i used to work at big 5. I knew nothing about guns then, and often they would make me work the knife and gun counter. I knew about knives but nothing about guns. I was a good bs'er so i would just read the tag and half *** answer questions. Half the managers didn't know about firearms either.

Straight from the horses mouth. Can't blame you cause at least you tried. I just wish they would actually train people.

This is like believing that all police officers are corrupt, civil rights abusing murderers because an ex cop told you about a few in his old department.

I'm very well trained.

Theres smart people at Big5??

Yes there are...unfortunately the bad apples get more press than the good ones. I get that though, when good service goes down like a nice crisp (insert your favorite apple here), you're probably too occupied enjoying it to say much. When it's rotten you have nothing but time and opportunity to express your disgust.

[santamonica9]

I asked my local store... who is a decent guy knows some stuff, guides you the right way till he doesnt know anymore. I asked him regarding the training staff gets on the hunting & fishing dept.? he said their is a yearly training offered to employees but due to turn over nobody stays around enough to go & learn. When you go you get to shoot every gun they sell; so no handguns. its the luck of the draw if the counter guy went, or knows about products.

[Ryan in SD]

Why does the OP sound so surprised?

[Rhythm of Life]

I asked my local store... who is a decent guy knows some stuff, guides you the right way till he doesnt know anymore. I asked him regarding the training staff gets on the hunting & fishing dept.? he said their is a yearly training offered to employees but due to turn over nobody stays around enough to go & learn. When you go you get to shoot every gun they sell; so no handguns. its the luck of the draw if the counter guy went, or knows about products.

Only Managers and Asst. Managers are invited to those shoots. From what I understand from a gun owning competent Manager is that the only let you shoot guns, they don;t teach you about them.

At the 2 Big 5 stores I've worked at both always send me to the gun section because I know my **** over "trained" employees.

I've had my Asst. Managers ask me about Straw purchases and all kinds of stuff. Today I had my asst manager tell a customer we ha lead free 00 buck in stock. When I question her (I had already checked) she said we had lead free slugs..... slugs do not = 00 buck......

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The problem is not at the store level. Its corporate. They say remove prices, they say BS, employees follow to keep their jobs.