I bought a few 500 round boxes and I regret it. My family took out our .22's today for some fun and I decided to shoot my stash of M-22. We had our 3 10/22's one with a Kidd Barrel, one with a Volquartsen and one stock stainless barrel. We also had a MKIII pistol.
We were noticing that the M-22 had a lot of failures to fire even with good primer hits. A lot of failures to feed as well as the bullet head shape seemed off and the bullet would not go into the chamber. We were having problems with one in about 15 rounds. These three guns are normally very reliable, solid builds with high end parts.
The Kidd barrel gun went down first. It started to keyhole and throw bullets all over the place. Then the stock barrel gun started to do the same. The Volquartsen gun was doing ok and the MKIII started to get inaccurate.
Knowing something was weird, we packed it up. All the guns had about 300 rounds through them.
One we were home, I inspected the bores, the Volquartsen was fine but the Kidd and the stock barrels were completely full of lead! You could not even see the lands and the barrels were down to less than half of their ID! I have never ever seen a barrel lead this badly before ever in my 40 years of shooting!
The MKIII was half leaded up. The Stock and Kidd were so bad you could not get a cleaning rod through the bores, I bent a dewy rod trying. You could not even get a cable through the lead. I had a tiny thin cable and that would not go through.
I was starting to panic as I tried soaking the bores with every cleaner in my inventory and nothing was doing much. Then I tried the peroxide and vinegar in a 50/50 solution trick. This really worked and it started to bubble and foam in the bore. After about 30 minutes of soaking, I managed to thread my super thin cable and a .17 caliber brush through. After repeated passes and soakings, huge thick sheets of lead started to come through and after a few hours I was able to pass a rod and a bronze brush and was finally able to clean the bores. Some of the lead was like 0.080" thick!
My daughter and I have been at it for 8 hours and finally everything is clean we hope. I am going to the range again tomorrow to see if we damaged our expensive barrels and optics with all the chemicals, tugging, pounding and cussing we put the guns through. We were trying to be as careful as we could be but I am scared we might have damaged something.
I am really curious why the M-22 killed the stock and the Kidd barrels but the Volquartsen barrel seemed fine with it. The Kidd and stock barrels were newer with about 2-3oo rounds each through them, the Volquartsen has many thousands of rounds through it. I wonder if it is smoother inside due to being well broken in and didn't lead up as bad because if it.
I think Winchester has a QA problem as some people love this stuff others hate it. Lots of mixed reviews. I haven't seen anyone with this extreme leading issue. Weird my guns like Winchester Super X just fine.
I want my 8 hours back....
We were noticing that the M-22 had a lot of failures to fire even with good primer hits. A lot of failures to feed as well as the bullet head shape seemed off and the bullet would not go into the chamber. We were having problems with one in about 15 rounds. These three guns are normally very reliable, solid builds with high end parts.
The Kidd barrel gun went down first. It started to keyhole and throw bullets all over the place. Then the stock barrel gun started to do the same. The Volquartsen gun was doing ok and the MKIII started to get inaccurate.
Knowing something was weird, we packed it up. All the guns had about 300 rounds through them.
One we were home, I inspected the bores, the Volquartsen was fine but the Kidd and the stock barrels were completely full of lead! You could not even see the lands and the barrels were down to less than half of their ID! I have never ever seen a barrel lead this badly before ever in my 40 years of shooting!
The MKIII was half leaded up. The Stock and Kidd were so bad you could not get a cleaning rod through the bores, I bent a dewy rod trying. You could not even get a cable through the lead. I had a tiny thin cable and that would not go through.
I was starting to panic as I tried soaking the bores with every cleaner in my inventory and nothing was doing much. Then I tried the peroxide and vinegar in a 50/50 solution trick. This really worked and it started to bubble and foam in the bore. After about 30 minutes of soaking, I managed to thread my super thin cable and a .17 caliber brush through. After repeated passes and soakings, huge thick sheets of lead started to come through and after a few hours I was able to pass a rod and a bronze brush and was finally able to clean the bores. Some of the lead was like 0.080" thick!
My daughter and I have been at it for 8 hours and finally everything is clean we hope. I am going to the range again tomorrow to see if we damaged our expensive barrels and optics with all the chemicals, tugging, pounding and cussing we put the guns through. We were trying to be as careful as we could be but I am scared we might have damaged something.
I am really curious why the M-22 killed the stock and the Kidd barrels but the Volquartsen barrel seemed fine with it. The Kidd and stock barrels were newer with about 2-3oo rounds each through them, the Volquartsen has many thousands of rounds through it. I wonder if it is smoother inside due to being well broken in and didn't lead up as bad because if it.
I think Winchester has a QA problem as some people love this stuff others hate it. Lots of mixed reviews. I haven't seen anyone with this extreme leading issue. Weird my guns like Winchester Super X just fine.
I want my 8 hours back....



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