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  • shadow65
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1301

    CMMG M4 LE Quebec

    Brown showed up today with my new M4 LE.
    It looks identical to my M4 5.56.
    This one has the ceramic finish. After wiping it down, the finish has a nice, even look to it. Pics do not do it justice
    I opened the upper, pulled the charging handle and noticed the bolt/carrier took an extra tug to get out. I thought it was just a tight unit. When I pulled it and inspected the B/C I see CMMG is using a spring detent pin on the barrel collar and a groove one the barrel itself to keep the B/C from moving. Great Job.
    That has been an issue with other dedicated uppers. If the B/C can move it will cause feeding problems.
    I ran 2 mags suppressed in my basement for a function check.
    It went through both mags without a hitch.
    The gas deflector is also a nice touch. No more smack in the face from gas/powder.
    The trigger is better than most I've tried from the factory. It's not a match trigger by any means but not bad.
    I'll use the set screw mod on it and clean it up before heading to the range.
    I am very happy with it. I'll follow up after my range trip.
    $550 complete rifle + $30 upgrade for stainless BCG
    Here it is as it came.
    I added the Carry Handle



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    shadow65
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1301

    I got to the range today with the CMMG M4 LE .22.
    I can honestly say I'm impressed.
    700 rounds, not one malfunction with the exception of Remington Subs. They just will not feed.
    Keep in mind, this is with a new stock G.I. trigger.
    Ammo was:
    Federal 550 Bulk 36 gr. HP
    Federal Champion 40 gr.
    CCI Mini Mag HP
    CCI Stinger
    Winchester 555 Bulk 36 gr. HP
    Kind of windy, 90 degrees, low humidity
    Range was 25 yards
    UTG 1-4 X scope




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    • #3
      shadow65
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 1301

      We have accumulated a lot of information on the Evolution system.
      Something new coming out all the time.
      10 round BHOA mags are now available.
      I'll be posting new information, tips that I have found.
      Feel free to contact me with any questions.
      Dave
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      • #4
        shadow65
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 1301

        I finally got on the 50 yard range today for a short time.
        CMMG Quebec complete rifle with stock barrel
        Mueller 3-10 Sport Dot
        TacSol Comp
        17 mph wind S
        Winchester 333
        Eley Match
        CCI Mini Mags
        I'm still impressed with the accuracy in a blaster barrel. Reliability is outstanding. I now have 3150 failure free rounds down it.


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        • #5
          shadow65
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 1301

          I'm at 4500 rounds of various .22 ammo. To date I've had 2 FTE's.
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          • #6
            Canucky
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 4265

            Shadow why is the upper called Quebec? And your location?

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            • #7
              geeknow
              Lifetime Contributor #1
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Aug 2007
              • 3144

              "suppressed, in my basement"...?

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              • #8
                shadow65
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 1301

                I'm in Southern Indiana.
                The Quebec is just a designation for that model. There will be different models available including the Quebec, Quebec A with mil spec buffer tube, Sierra, and others as they come out.
                These are still pretty new and something else is developed daily it seems
                Hard for me to keep up with.
                The 10 round BHOA mags were completed yesterday.
                These guys never sleep.
                Here is a link to answer a lot of questions including models available and coming:
                What the heck, we change almost everyother part, why not this one too? The new patent pending CMMG .22Evolution jag/take-down guide rod and frame will be available oncertain models of kits. Our one pi
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                • #9
                  shadow65
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1301

                  Originally posted by geeknow
                  "suppressed, in my basement"...?
                  My basement is large enough for me to do some .22 shooting in. I'm in southern Indiana. Suppressor friendly state.
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                  • #10
                    geeknow
                    Lifetime Contributor #1
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 3144

                    Bless you....jealous, big time, brother.

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                    • #11
                      shadow65
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1301

                      You guys in Cali definetly have different issues to deal with than we do back here.
                      You might be able to answer a question for me.
                      Rimfire AR set ups. Does the lower require a bullet button? I ask because the CMMG lowers are marked Multi Cal and are standard AR lowers. Obviously a dedicated upper wouldn't be a problem but I'm not sure how Cali Law looks at the lower.
                      Thanks,
                      Dave
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                      • #12
                        Droppin Deuces
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 5969

                        No bullet button required for lowers attached to rimfire uppers.

                        Good thread topic. I purchased a CMMG upper a couple of months ago and couldn't be happier.


                        How do you like that scope? I had been looking into getting one, but already have 2 other 1-4x scopes and couldn't justify the purchase.
                        Last edited by Droppin Deuces; 10-20-2010, 7:07 AM.
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                        • #13
                          ZX-10R
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 4122

                          Believe me for those who have never shot a gun outside of this law happy democratic state it is pure heaven.

                          Congrats to you and nice group.
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                          • #14
                            shadow65
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 1301

                            I've been happy with it.
                            UTG gets a lot of flaming because they are part of an AirSoft company. But I know the owner and have tested a lot of their gear. I've been suprised by most of it. For the price, it's a good value.
                            The 1-4 scope has been mounted on a 5.56 and my .22. It has always held zero. I probably wouldn't take it into combat, but then again, I've had 0 problems with it.
                            I recently got a 3-12 compact scope from UTG and had focusing problems. Sent it back and waiting on another. They will stand behind the product.
                            David Ding, who is the owner, actually moved a large part of his manufacturing to the U.S. last year. You don't hear that too often.
                            I'm using a 200 lumen LED weapon light from UTG right now on my work rifle. It's had a lot of rounds through it and is still functioning fine.
                            A larger local PD is actually issueing them to officers.
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                            • #15
                              shadow65
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 1301

                              My best friend moved to San Fran 3 years ago. I think he's ready to come back.
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