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  • SKSer45
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 4373

    I am hurt :(

    Well bad news boys and girl, Kiss that Hakim goodbye from Samco. Yes that gorgeous 8mm semi automatic that was on sale for 499.00 All bye bye. Spoke to the manager of Samco and according to him as directed by the ATF, they are not allowed to sell Hakims to CA. They are going to e-mail me a letter as proof. F*CK THIS STATE!!!!! One more reason why I am moving next year.

    So hurt and crushed and angry!
  • #2
    gasol1ne
    Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 470

    That sucks, does it have to do with the 50 year old thing?

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    • #3
      glennsche
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 1831

      Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Furher! (that's why Obama must go)

      wtf does this mean???
      "If the American Left wanted to decrease interest in shooting, they should have the government make it mandatory like they do here in Switzerland. Nothing makes you not want to do something like when the government makes you do it."

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      • #4
        DennisCA
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4021

        CA Gun Laws truely suck- The People's Republic of CA stikes again!
        "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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        • #5
          paul0660
          In Memoriam
          • Jul 2007
          • 15669

          They are going to e-mail me a letter as proof.
          That should be interesting.
          *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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          • #6
            SKSer45
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 4373

            Yeah like to see what it says. I am guessing it has something to do with the 50 year old rule...even if it did I still could send it to an FFL and pick it up. As I recall Hakims were made in the 1950's and 60's and is on the BAFTE list.

            Time to get out of CA NOW.

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            • #7
              morrcarr67
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jul 2010
              • 14999

              I just called Samco about their P6 and the lady said we don't sell pistols to CA. But their website doesn't say that. I'm thinking they are making up crap as they go along.
              Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

              Originally posted by Erion929

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              • #8
                SKSer45
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 4373

                Originally posted by morrcarr67
                I just called Samco about their P6 and the lady said we don't sell pistols to CA. But their website doesn't say that. I'm thinking they are making up crap as they go along.
                yeah maybe but can you blame them? This is what I mean by east coast west coast specifically about CA. Because everyone knows that CA has some of the strictest gun laws and they want nothing to do with it. I don't blame them one bit.

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                • #9
                  0321jarhead
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 2116

                  I should have mentioned that in another thread here. I ran into that awhile back. If it is a bolt action rifle they will send it (sometimes in bad shape) to Kal with no problem. Ammo is about the only thing to buy from them. Then again there are better deals for ammo elsewhere as well.
                  "TRUST BUT, VERIFY"
                  Ronald Reagan

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                  • #10
                    morrcarr67
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 14999

                    I don't blame them either. But it really isn't that hard to do business with CA. There are larger companies that do it and so can they.
                    I have more compassion for the mom and pop that doesn't then for the larger outfits. If you're big enough to place an ad in SGN then you should be big enough to figure out how to sell to CA.
                    Yes you can have 2 C&R 03 FFL's; 1 in California and 1 in a different state.

                    Originally posted by Erion929

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                    • #11
                      ke6guj
                      Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 23725

                      Originally posted by SKSer45
                      Yeah like to see what it says. I am guessing it has something to do with the 50 year old rule...even if it did I still could send it to an FFL and pick it up. As I recall Hakims were made in the 1950's and 60's and is on the BAFTE list.

                      Time to get out of CA NOW.
                      I'd guess that it is actually an AW issue, not a C&R issue.

                      My guess is that someone is deciding that the muzzle attachment on the Hakim is a Flash hider and therefore the Hakim is an AW.
                      Jack



                      Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                      No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                      • #12
                        ptoguy2002
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 3863

                        Originally posted by ke6guj
                        I'd guess that it is actually an AW issue, not a C&R issue.

                        My guess is that someone is deciding that the muzzle attachment on the Hakim is a Flash hider and therefore the Hakim is an AW.
                        That might throw a lot of people for a loop...
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                        • #13
                          nick
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 19145

                          Originally posted by ke6guj
                          I'd guess that it is actually an AW issue, not a C&R issue.

                          My guess is that someone is deciding that the muzzle attachment on the Hakim is a Flash hider and therefore the Hakim is an AW.
                          You'd think then it's none of ATF's business, but a CA DOJ's business.

                          I think, it's the issues with Hakims not necessarily being over 50 years old (some are, some aren't), even though they're on the C&R list. I had to transfer mine through an FFL because of that. Still, it's a CA DOJ, not ATF matter. Provided Samco didn't make it up, that is.
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                          • #14
                            AK all day
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2977

                            Are you fu**ing kidding me... HAKIM not allowed in CA....... thats bulls*** man.
                            "The purpose of living is to find something worth dying for"

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                            • #15
                              harmoniums
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 3488

                              Someone took a big fat retard pill this morning.
                              Federally, the hakim is C&R, the ATF has no remit to enforce CA-DOJ rules or laws, otherwise they could be accused of providing unequal protection or hindering interstate commerce.
                              So samcos ATF agent, retarded out (likely) or Samcos $15 a hour expert retarded out (equally likely) or both did (most likely).

                              Wrt the op's sig glen, it means he's capable of succinct derping in TWO languages!
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