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  • TRICKSTER
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Mar 2008
    • 12438

    Originally posted by SquidBilly
    I have a fairly simple question that I couldn't really find definitively answered in this thread. Having to do with the 50 year rule on long guns.

    Say I go to a Nevada gun show, I can buy any 50 year old or older long gun (not nfa of course) and bring it back to California. As long as it's registered within 5 days?

    Or does the long gun specifically have to be on the ATF list?

    Same question for online purchases?

    Basically, where and when do the 50 year rules apply? Where and when do the ATF's list apply?
    If it's 50 years old or older, you are good to go, it is considered a C&R.
    If it is on the ATF C&R list, you are good to go, it is considered a C&R.
    This applies no matter how or where you acquire the firearm

    If you are making the purchase in person with a 03FFL, out of state, (like at a Nevada Gun Show) this applies to both C&R long guns and handguns. Buy it and register it with CA DOJ within 5 days of bringing it into Ca.

    In state purchases of C&R long guns, this includes online purchases shipped to you, require both a 03FFL and COE. Register with CA DOJ within 30 days of receiving the firearm. In state purchases of C&R handguns, this also includes online purchases, must go through a FFL Dealer but you are exempt from the 10 day wait if you have a 03FFL and COE.
    Last edited by TRICKSTER; 09-02-2016, 1:42 PM.


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    • SquidBilly
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2016
      • 594

      Perfect thank you!

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      • Army GI
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2007
        • 4284

        Tried to skim the thread, but probably missed where my question was answered. I apologize if it is redundant, but I haven't bought any new C&Rs in a couple of years and am concerned if the laws have changed.

        My question is this:

        I am a COE and 03FFL holder. I am currently bidding on a C&R rifle from out of state. Does the seller have to ship to an 01FFL or can he ship directly to me?
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        • Texas_bung
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 39

          I am not sure if this is the right forum to ask but my question is related to c&r ppt so here it goes.
          I am looking to sell a mosin I bought pre2014, when you could purchase said rifle without going through ffl and seller simply records the sale in his/her binder. How do I prove that the rifle is legally mine and ok sell?.

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          • jc2aloha
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2017
            • 79

            Does anyone if you can use your C&R license to buy ammo over the counter from Big 5, Bass Pro, Dick's, or any other shops that sell ammo in California?

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            • Kilo3049
              Member
              • Jan 2016
              • 110

              Originally posted by jc2aloha
              Does anyone if you can use your C&R license to buy ammo over the counter from Big 5, Bass Pro, Dick's, or any other shops that sell ammo in California?
              Currently, you could walk into any store that sells ammo here and purchase it. You don't need a C&R license or any type of license to buy ammo.

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              • DrewN
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 1887

                So, I PPT'd a NON C&R handgun within the last month but am thinking about grabbing a cool C&R handgun here on the forums. I know C&R is exempt from 1 in 30 usually, but will my DROS get kicked because of the prior purchase?

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                • locomike
                  Member
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 273

                  arent both of those bof forms exactly the same?

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                  • locomike
                    Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 273

                    if im a C&R and COE holder who buys a C&R long gun in state, do i need any info on seller? I dont see that it is asked for on the BOF961 form

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                    • TRICKSTER
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 12438

                      Originally posted by locomike
                      if im a C&R and COE holder who buys a C&R long gun in state, do i need any info on seller? I dont see that it is asked for on the BOF961 form
                      You will need the sellers info to log into your Bound Book.


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                      • locomike
                        Member
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 273

                        is that the same thing as "personal firearms record"? that little folded page that the atf sent me with my papers.

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                        • TRICKSTER
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 12438

                          Originally posted by locomike
                          is that the same thing as "personal firearms record"? that little folded page that the atf sent me with my papers.
                          See section f in this link.
                          (f. Firearms receipt and disposition by licensed collectors.)


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                          • locomike
                            Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 273

                            thanks

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                            • Blade Gunner
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 4422

                              Originally posted by wtrtroughreg
                              Now that I have my C&R, do I have to get any more licenses from Ca before I can buy through the on-line auctions or places like SAMCO, Aim Surplus, Classic Arms, and such?


                              Get a COE and you can buy ammunition online delivered to your door.


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                              • General Kronstadt
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 426

                                Originally posted by Blade Gunner
                                Get a COE and you can buy ammunition online delivered to your door.


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                                ....

                                This is true most places, but I have a O3 and COE and live in Contra Costa county, and because of some weird law about unincorporated areas not being allowed to recieve ammo, many online ammo retailers will not sell to me. It's bunk.

                                I have an FFL down the highway that charges $0 for ammo being shipped, so it's fine, but also, it's not....

                                Any one else encountered this?
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