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  • #31
    wtrtroughreg
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 13

    So as I am reading these replies about Cal regs for 50+ long guns, if I buy a 50+ long gun from Auction Arms, Gun Broker, ect. I don't need to worry about California DROS, just enter in my book. Is this correct?

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    • #32
      jmlivingston
      Moderator Emeritus
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 5095

      Originally posted by wtrtroughreg
      So as I am reading these replies about Cal regs for 50+ long guns, if I buy a 50+ long gun from Auction Arms, Gun Broker, ect. I don't need to worry about California DROS, just enter in my book. Is this correct?
      Yes, that's correct.

      Only other thing to add, just because I haven't seen it mentioned here, is you still have to comply with all the Assault Weapon (AW) laws. So be careful of SKS's with grenade launchers, and AW features.

      John

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      • #33
        vf111
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 2627

        Originally posted by chiefcrash


        The 50+ year old restriction is only a requirement if YOU are physically in the state. If YOU are out of the state buying guns, then you can purchase *ANY* C&R eligible firearm regardless of age


        ....
        So to finally put this to bed for a non-C&R holder like me, I can sell a 50+ year old rifle to anyone inside Calif. w/o monkeying around w/ the DROS as long as that person can legally own guns. It's even better if that person is a C&R holder. Am I correct?

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        • #34
          Dr. Peter Venkman
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2006
          • 4899

          Originally posted by vf111
          So to finally put this to bed for a non-C&R holder like me, I can sell a 50+ year old rifle to anyone inside Calif. w/o monkeying around w/ the DROS as long as that person can legally own guns. It's even better if that person is a C&R holder. Am I correct?
          Yes.
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          • #35
            pdangeruss
            Junior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 13

            California C&R Regulations Compliance

            For those of you interested, I ran across this Memorandum of Law prepared by a law firm and submitted to the CA DOJ which they agreed with. It is lengthy but does deal very well with interpreting the ins and outs of CA law regarding transfers, importing, etc. of C&R firearms, of all categories. Long guns, Handguns, and C&R Firearms less than 50 years old.

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            • #36
              daves100
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2007
              • 943

              does the CA Certificate of eligibility cover new handguns also

              Does the CA Certificate of eligibility cover new handguns also, could i walk into a gun store and walk out with a new pistol same day

              ( yes i did search but nothing came up )

              Originally posted by FortCourageArmory
              One other useful feature of an 03 FLL (C&R License) is that the holder can....with possession of a CA Certificate of Eligibility....avoid the one-handgun-purchase-every-30-days rule. Nice little side benefit. As for criminality, an 03 FFL may take delivery of any long gun deemed to be a Curio & Relic directly from an out-of-state source. This means an 03 FFL holder can purchase a rifle from Auction Arms and get it mailed direct to him as long as it's over 50 years old. No harm, no foul.

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              • #37
                diginit
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 3250


                Page not found

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                Please try the following:

                If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is spelled correctly.
                - Click the Back button in your browser to try another link.
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                HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????? I wanted to read this.............

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                • #38
                  pdangeruss
                  Junior Member
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 13

                  Broken Link

                  From the home page: http://www.calgunlaws.com/ under “MODULES” (top left hand pane) , there is a heading: “TOPICS”, click there and then scroll down to “Antiques, Curios and Relics.” The “Memorandum of Law” is there, for some reason the actual links from this site don’t work to copy/paste any longer. The page with the actual DOJ approval letter isn’t indexed properly, but I’m sure if you contact them they will be happy to provide it to you, it is archived. They recently changed their website, and it is somewhat difficult to navigate on. It is also a Trutanich - Michel Lawfirm website.
                  Last edited by pdangeruss; 08-06-2008, 3:13 AM. Reason: error

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                  • #39
                    amurphy
                    Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 251

                    Ok. In the mail today I found brown envelope with my FFL 03 forms in it to fill out. I requested them last Friday and today is Thursday. Amazing!

                    So on to my questions. I live within 1000 feet of a school in El Cajon(San Diego) any special hoops I will have to jump through? I will be purchasing mainly longarms.
                    Are there any local laws that would prevent me from getting a 03? I am totally legal to own and purchase a longarm or handgun. Totally clean record.
                    Thanks for the help!! Really looking forward to my CMP purchases I plan on!

                    (Move this if it needs to please.)

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                    • #40
                      Mssr. Eleganté
                      Blue Blaze Irregular
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 10401

                      You are good to go amurphy.
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                      • #41
                        amurphy
                        Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 251

                        Thank you! Will fill it all out today and send it in. Hopefully this won't be to hard on my wallet. It already growls at me
                        Last edited by amurphy; 08-23-2008, 11:09 AM. Reason: removed a word

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                        • #42
                          Mark49
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 1153

                          I’m a 03 licensee have been for 15 years, welcome to collectors license.
                          Having a 03 license in California rather then lets say Texas is your restricted to purchase AWB, guns with grenade launchers and 03 handguns. Here’s the kicker, an 03 license along with a COE certificate is you can purchase more then one 03 handgun from gun shows outside California, once you arrive in California ya’ll need to pay $15.00 and you’re set to go.
                          I attend the Las Vegas gun show and walked out with 03 qualified handguns without a hitch.
                          Also defined C&R longguns like the SKS 59/66 even though Calif knows they are not 50+ years old, rifles like these without printed dates are a grey area but appear to be qualified rifles for C&R sales in California (Without grenade launcher)
                          Just a footnote, most sellers outside California don’t care about our 03 handgun restriction, most of my friends buy them on line without a problem, your call on that one.

                          If YOU are physically INSIDE California and buying an 03 handgun, it doesn’t have go through a 01 FFL dealer. 10 day waiting period doesn’t apply as long as you have BOTH a C&R license and a COE, you can also buy more then one 03 handgun.
                          Last edited by Mark49; 10-21-2008, 11:36 PM.

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                          • #43
                            Mssr. Eleganté
                            Blue Blaze Irregular
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 10401

                            I think this post might be the winner of the Most Wrong Information In A Post award. With the punctuation it's kind of hard to tell though. With all of the commas and periods in the right places it might only be the second most wrong post.
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                            • #44
                              Mark49
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1153

                              Originally posted by Amendment II
                              I think this post might be the winner of the Most Wrong Information In A Post award. With the punctuation it's kind of hard to tell though. With all of the commas and periods in the right places it might only be the second most wrong post.
                              100% correct, not sure what you're drinking tonight, but when you sober up do some research.... Not a flame "just need to get the facts"

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                              • #45
                                Mssr. Eleganté
                                Blue Blaze Irregular
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 10401

                                Originally posted by Mark49
                                100% correct, not sure what you're drinking tonight, but when you sober up do some research.... Not a flame "just need to get the facts"
                                Oh jeeze, I just spit Wild Turkey 101 all over my keyboard!



                                You do not need a COE to purchase C&R handguns while you are out of state. The COE is only needed when you purchase from a Dealer inside California. It's not even really needed, but having a C&R FFL and a COE allows you to skip the 10 day wait on C&R firearm purchased at a Dealer in California. It also allows you to skip the 1 handgun per 30 days restriction on C&R and modern handguns purchased at a Dealer in California.

                                The C&R Handgun Report fee is $19 per handgun.

                                Yes it does. C&R handguns purchased while inside California must go through a California 01 FFL Dealer.
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