Cal Regs

[billmaykafer]

if you buy a C&R weapon (without having a coe) after 1/1/2014 from a dealer in San Diego,do you have to also pay $19 registration fee? or is it done by dealer?

[Mssr. Eleganté]

It's done by the dealer when he submits the DROS.

[Handelfan]

^ So if you buy a C&R long gun at a LGS now, it has to be registered?

[Mssr. Eleganté]

^ So if you buy a C&R long gun at a LGS now, it has to be registered?

Yes. Starting back on January 1, 2014 the DROS system now registers long gun transfers just like handgun transfers.

And C&R FFLs who acquire C&R long guns outside of California have to register them within five days of returning to California by mailing in a form, just like they've had to do with C&R handguns.

And C&R FFLs who also have a COE have to mail in a form to register the C&R long guns that they acquire from non-dealers inside California.

[kouye]

Yes. Starting back on January 1, 2014 the DROS system now registers long gun transfers just like handgun transfers.

And C&R FFLs who acquire C&R long guns outside of California have to register them within five days of returning to California by mailing in a form, just like they've had to do with C&R handguns.

And C&R FFLs who also have a COE have to mail in a form to register the C&R long guns that they acquire from non-dealers inside California.

Which form is used, as a C&R and COE holder, when purchasing a C&R long gun from an out of state licensed dealer? BOF 961 seems to be for buying from non-licensees.

Edit: Is it BOF 4100A?

[pac531]

With the changes for 2014, does a C&R and COE still exempt you from the one every 30 day handgun purchase?

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Which form is used, as a C&R and COE holder, when purchasing a C&R long gun from an out of state licensed dealer? BOF 961 seems to be for buying from non-licensees.

Edit: Is it BOF 4100A?

If the out of state dealer ships the long gun to you and you take possession inside California then you use BOF 961. If you take possession from the out of state dealer while you are outside of California then you use BOF 4100A.

With the changes for 2014, does a C&R and COE still exempt you from the one every 30 day handgun purchase?

Yes, the C&R FFL + COE still exempts you from California's one handgun per 30 days rule. Any local restriction, like in Los Angeles, still applies though.

[Anunnaki]

If that is so, then the CA DOJ should update its website. https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs

14. Can I sell a gun directly to another person (i.e. non-dealer)?

Generally, no. This type of transaction is referred to as a “private party transfer” and must be conducted through a fully licensed California firearms dealer. Failure to do so is a violation of California law. The purchaser (and seller if the purchaser is denied), must meet the normal firearm purchase and delivery requirements.

Firearms dealers are required to process private party transfers upon request but may charge a fee not to exceed $10 per firearm for conducting the transfer. For example:

For a private party transfer involving one or more handguns, the total allowable fees, including the DROS, safety, and dealer transfer fees, are not to exceed $35.00 for the first handgun and $31.00 for each additional handgun involved in the same transaction.

For private party transfers involving one or more long guns, or a private party transfer involving one handgun, the total allowable fees, including the DROS, safety, and dealer transfer fees, are not to exceed $35.00. The dealer may charge an additional dealer-service fee of up to $10.00 for each additional firearm.

"Antique firearms," as defined in section 921(a)(16) of Title 18 of the United States Code, and curio or relic rifles/shotguns, defined in section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, that are over 50 years old, are exempt from this requirement. For additional exceptions, refer to Penal Code sections 27850 through 27966.

[flak88mm]

If the out of state dealer ships the long gun to you and you take possession inside California then you use BOF 961. If you take possession from the out of state dealer while you are outside of California then you use BOF 4100A.

Can u buy from a non ffl person with your c&r license while out of state without going thru an ffl here in ca once you import it?


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[Mssr. Eleganté]

Can u buy from a non ffl person with your c&r license while out of state without going thru an ffl here in ca once you import it?

Yes, you can acquire C&R handguns and C&R long guns from private parties while you are out of state and then report them to CalDOJ by sending in the form when you get back to California. The tricky part is getting the private seller's name and address. Many don't want to give out that info, but you can't buy from them without it.

[flak88mm]

Yes, you can acquire C&R handguns and C&R long guns from private parties while you are out of state and then report them to CalDOJ by sending in the form when you get back to California. The tricky part is getting the private seller's name and address. Many don't want to give out that info, but you can't buy from them without it.

I have his info I won the rifle from gunbroker and gunbroker discloses sellers address and phone number

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[Yorba1]

J&G sales wants C&R lic and CA COE to buy ?

I tried to buy a C&R Mauser from J&G Sales in Arizona. They have my FFL03 on file; but now say they want a CA COE. Does anyone know when this changed ? I have purchased from them before without the COE.

[kouye]

I tried to buy a C&R Mauser from J&G Sales in Arizona. They have my FFL03 on file; but now say they want a CA COE. Does anyone know when this changed ? I have purchased from them before without the COE.

New for 2014

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Question . If you are out of state can you purchase a 50+ year old rifle with out any license and bring it back to CA? I think I know answer but just want to confirm.

Nope. Since 1968 federal law has required transfers of firearms between residents of two different States to involve an FFL.

[Toyman321]

I have two C&R handguns that Im trying to sell, I have a buyer out of the area that wants me to ship to his FFL. Can I ship directly to his FFL or do I need to go through an FFL on my end as well? Advice would be appreciated. Thank you!