Have an Old Winchester?

[highpower]

Great thread! Thanks for taking the time to answer all these posts. OK now I have one for you 1897 serial# 631271. Currently configured as a trench gun, but I believe that it came out as a riot gun.

[TRAP55]

Trap, how about:
'94 #2321552

Finloq, your '94 was made in late 1958, with 55,500 made that year.

[finloq]

Thanks Trap.
Any plans to publish this data? I would imagine that a $5 pamphlet (cheap and easy binding), would do well.

[TRAP55]

highpower, your 1897 serial# 631271 was made late 1915, with 13,100 made that year.
The 1897 is another of Bert's passions, the 1885's are his obsession!
Send him an email and see if it letters, at the very least it should say if it was shipped to the military or law enforcement.

[highpower]

highpower, your 1897 serial# 631271 was made late 1915, with 13,100 made that year.
The 1897 is another of Bert's passions, the 1885's are his obsession!
Send him an email and see if it letters, at the very least it should say if it was shipped to the military or law enforcement.

I know you must have posted it already, but how do I contact him?

[TRAP55]

Post #220 above on this page, "Winchester" in the subject line, and tell him I sent ya!
Ask him if he can find out what it was issued as(riot or trench) and who it was sent to if he can. Sometimes it will letter, and there's nothing more than how it was shipped, so don't get your hopes up.

[Mark51]

Hi Trap:

Do you have any information on a Model 1873, serial number 567017B?

Thanks!

[TRAP55]

Hi Trap:

Do you have any information on a Model 1873, serial number 567017B?

Thanks!

Made early 1903, with9472 made that year.

[TRAP55]

Thanks Trap.
Any plans to publish this data? I would imagine that a $5 pamphlet (cheap and easy binding), would do well.

It's been published and sold out, it's what I'm using to quote from. There's rumor a new updated version may be out sometime this year.

[finloq]

Now, you keep us informed now.

[TRAP55]

Bert should be pretty close to completing the first comprehensive book on the 1885 Winchester too. I think he mentioned it would be a hardcover, and would have color pics. If it does, it would be worth the price, just for the eye candy! He has a couple that far exceed the value of my entire collection.
I'll keep you all posted when the books will be for sale.

[Mark51]

Made early 1903, with9472 made that year.

Wow, very cool to know!

Just to clarify, are you saying there were only 9,472 total Model 1873's made in 1903 (as opposed to 9,472 rifles of this specific varation)?

Thank you very much for taking the time to look this up for me!!

[TRAP55]

There were only 9,472 total, Model 1873's made in 1903. Total production(1873-1933) numbered 720,610.
The first year of 1873, only 126 were made. The last year of 1933 only 1 was made.
The most made in one year was 1890, with 43,796 made that year.
1920 was the first year 0 were made, and in the next 13 years, only 108 were made, with 102 of those made in 1929. Many years had no production at all.
Made in calibers:
.22 Short
.22 Long
.32/20
.38/40
.44/40

[Mark51]

Wow, thats great - really interesting stuff! It seems like the more information you give me the more questions it seems to bring up!

I wonder how many people they had building rifles back in 1890? If they were only running one shift, that total number works out to a rate of about 21 rifles per hour! Pretty impressive rate for back in those days!

The 1920-1933 production numbers sure seem rather odd. Do you have any idea what prompted the 102 rifles being built in 1929 when only 6 others were made during the other 12 years?

I wonder if these 6 were some sort of comeratives or if back then they just would take an order and build up a single standard rifle?

Thanks again for the details as it is fun to know some of the history surrounding the rifle!

Mark

There were only 9,472 total, Model 1873's made in 1903. Total production(1873-1933) numbered 720,610.
The first year of 1873, only 126 were made. The last year of 1933 only 1 was made.
The most made in one year was 1890, with 43,796 made that year.
1920 was the first year 0 were made, and in the next 13 years, only 108 were made, with 102 of those made in 1929. Many years had no production at all.
Made in calibers:
.22 Short
.22 Long
.32/20
.38/40
.44/40

[TRAP55]

Mark, production "officially" ended in 1919. I don't know for sure, but my WAG is all those last rifles had to be a special order. The 1892 was a far superior design, and chambered in the same calibers, so you would have to really "want" a 1873 at that time.
The last 1873 was delivered to Abercrombie & Fitch in NY.
With the exception of the Madis reference, here's a pretty good summary of the 1873 production.

http://www.ogca.com/winchestermodel1873s.htm