SKS detachable magazines

[boris badinov]

Shoulder thing that goes up.

If you think you can change the mind of the CA DOJ, be my guest and make an example of yourself.

[boris badinov]

Shoulder thing that goes up.

[MajorSideburns]

Just FYI: The SKS rifle used as an example in the Roberti Roos list is NOT a Russian SKS. Nor does Roberti Roos name the Soviet carbine by its "specific" models designation SKS45.

It's a Chinese commecial mod rifle with a spike bayonet. Laff

And under the heading "Manufacturer" it very specifically says various.



No semantic magic.

You are pointing to an obsolete law which was already modified by the California courts 23 years ago. You realize that if "Various" manufacturers was still the litmus test, you would have no California legal AR-15? The court already ruled that guns can't be banned by something as vague as "AK pattern" or "AR series". I think the concept keeps going over your head. SKS with detachable magazine was left as the named model in the ban due to the inability to ban by series. As long as your rifle does not say "SKS" on the receiver it is not an SKS in relation to the California ban. The Harrott decision was clear about this. And you keep conflating colloquial semantics with legal definitions. We all call them AR-15s, but If you have two identical shaped lowers and one is stamped "Colt AR-15" and the other is stamped "S&W MP-15" one is a California legal rifle and the other is banned by name as an "assault weapon". On the "forums" we aren't distinguishing the rifles between "Anderson AM-15" and "S&W MP-15" we just all know them as AR-15 pattern rifles.

[19K]

If you think you can change the mind of the CA DOJ, be my guest and make an example of yourself.

I?m guessing you don?t get the reference.

?You?re banning barrel shrouds, can you tell me what a barrel shroud is??

?It?s the shoulder thing that goes up??



Good luck explaining the LAW to any government official who is anti the law you want overturned.

They?ll tell you to settle it in court and like other posters have said, after a lot of money is spent the case will be dropped to prevent precedence.

[19K]

Yugos are SKS, no semantical leger de main needed to convince me otherwise:


Ohio Guns:
"SKS 7.62MM YUGOSLAV OOV CHARDON, OH"


SDI:
"SKS 7.62 X 39 YUGOSLAV
SDI FOX RIVER GROVE, IL"


Tennessee Guns:
"TG KNOX TN SKS M59 7.62X39 YUGO"


Mitchell Arms:
"MODEL S.K.S. MITCHELL ARMS INC.
CAL7,62 X 39 SANTA ANA, CAL, USA"
ZASTAVA-KRAGUJEVAC
MADE IN YUGOSLAVIA "




Go figure?

Which of those was the model designated by the manufacturer?

[boris badinov]

In real life-- its still an sks.

That's a simple fact.

[boris badinov]

Which of those was the model designated by the manufacturer?

Feel free to put a detachable mag on any of them and find out if it matters who made the designation.

[19K]

Feel free to put a detachable mag on any of them and find out if it matters who made the designation.

Why won?t you answer the question?

Which of the markings (that you selected from a giant list that included different importers who didn?t mark ?SKS? on their import marks) was done by the manufacturer? What matters more? The manufacturer designation (like on thousands of different ?AR-15s? in circulation) or the importer who stenciled something on?

If an importer didn?t stamp ?sks? on the rifle does that mean it?s not an SKS (since the importer stamp seems to be your smoking gun)?

[19K]

In real life-- its still an sks.

That's a simple fact.

To laymen? Yes. It?s an SKS.

To someone who has taken more than an online weapons ID course, it isn?t.

Especially the yugo 59/66

[boris badinov]

I?m guessing you don?t get the reference.

?You?re banning barrel shrouds, can you tell me what a barrel shroud is??

?It?s the shoulder thing that goes up??

I got the reference.

Good luck explaining the LAW to any government official who is anti the law you want overturned.

Which is exactly my point

They?ll tell you to settle it in court and like other posters have said, after a lot of money is spent the case will be dropped to prevent precedence.

If that's what you think will happen, then by all means do it.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Therefore can we just be honest when answering the OP's question and stop suggesting that he or anyone ought to be the first to give it a go with the DOJ?

[19K]

I got the reference.




Which is exactly my point



If that's what you think will happen, then by all means do it.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Therefore can we just be honest when answering the OP's question and stop suggesting that he or anyone ought to be the first to give it a go with the DOJ?

It?s false to say ?ITS ILLEGAL! DONT DO IT!?

[boris badinov]

It?s false to say ?ITS ILLEGAL! DONT DO IT!?

The Harrot decision was over two decades ago.

In today's anti-gun political climate, in a state as stacked against the 2nd Amendment as Cali, will that precedent stand? If you think so, go ahead and take the challenge.

It's one thing if you want to take your own advice and face the legal challenge yourself-- I'd support you all the way. But suggesting others take the legal and financial risk on by themselves is poor form.

[MajorSideburns]

In real life-- its still an sks.

That's a simple fact.

In real life, your 5.56 rifle is still an AR-15. I hope you turned it in and didn't try anything cute like a bullet button or featureless build. You don't own any AR-15 rifles, do you?

[boris badinov]

In real life, your 5.56 rifle is still an AR-15. I hope you turned it in and didn't try anything cute like a bullet button or featureless build. You don't own any AR-15 rifles, do you?

In real life some of us have jobs, mortgages, families and don't have time let alone the money to waste on legal fees , or gun collections to jeopardize on the legal advice of experts on gun forums.

You don't own any detachable mag M59 or 59/66, or M56, or NK, NVA or other non-import bringbacks, do you?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

[boris badinov]

You don't own any AR-15 rifles, do you?

According to you, no one does.