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  • sirdutch
    Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 256

    SKS detachable magazines

    Okay! I was hoping to change my SKS to accept detachable mags. I understand that they are kinda funky looking. I'm not wanting to be outside of the law.

    Is it legal in California to modify it to accept 10 round detachable mags if one uses American made parts? It would not be a permanent modification of the firearm if did

    My guess is that the answer is that it is not legal here in California.

    Thanks.

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  • #2
    Dirk Tungsten
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 2043

    Unfortunately no. The "list" specifically calls out SKS's with detachable mags as being banned. Otherwise I would have done this long ago.

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    • #3
      sirdutch
      Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 256

      SKS detachable mags

      WOW! That's just weird! Thanks!

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      • #4
        wpod
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2014
        • 2395

        I used detachable mags on my SKS. Unlike many, they worked fine for me. A metal 30-round and some polymer 20-round.
        I went back to the original fixed 10-round.

        Sent from my SM-S908U using Tapatalk

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        • #5
          JohnnyMtn
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 1475

          The ?flowchart? handles doubts like this. https://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

          Unfortunately, SKS with detachable magazine was called out by name in the 1989 law and is therefore an assault weapon. Adding a detachable mag to an SKS would make it an assault weapon which would mean that you are constructing an assault weapon which would mean that you are breaking the law.

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          • #6
            Quiet
            retired Goon
            • Mar 2007
            • 30241

            Originally posted by sirdutch
            SKS detachable magazines

            Okay! I was hoping to change my SKS to accept detachable mags. I understand that they are kinda funky looking. I'm not wanting to be outside of the law.

            Is it legal in California to modify it to accept 10 round detachable mags if one uses American made parts? It would not be a permanent modification of the firearm if did

            My guess is that the answer is that it is not legal here in California.

            Thanks.
            CA illegal since 06-01-1989. [PC 30510(a)(11)]
            In order to remain CA legal to possess, they were required to be registered as an assault weapon before 01-01-1991. [PC 30900(a)(1)]


            Penal Code 30510
            As used in this chapter and in Sections 16780, 17000, and 27555, "assault weapon" means the following designated semiautomatic firearms:
            (a) All of the following specified rifles:
            (11) SKS with detachable magazine.
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            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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            • #7
              beerman
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 4860

              Is it really that hard to load via stripper clips? I can load mine in about 2 seconds.

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              • #8
                Quiet
                retired Goon
                • Mar 2007
                • 30241

                Originally posted by beerman
                Is it really that hard to load via stripper clips? I can load mine in about 2 seconds.
                It's faster to load the standard fixed magazine using stripper clips, then to load using the "duckbill" SKS detachable magazines.
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                "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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                • #9
                  bohoki
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 20815

                  some take their chances with the yugo ones since they are not an "sks" like most peoples ar-15s are not ar-15s

                  but if your firearm says sks on it dont do it

                  besides they are a bit of a pain since the bolt has to be back to insert and remove it

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                  • #10
                    boris badinov
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 614

                    Originally posted by bohoki
                    some take their chances with the yugo ones since they are not an "sks" like most peoples ar-15s are not ar-15s

                    but if your firearm says sks on it dont do it

                    besides they are a bit of a pain since the bolt has to be back to insert and remove it
                    How is the Yugo not an sks, exactly?
                    "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                    • #11
                      BrokerB
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 5280

                      Star 20 rounders!!

                      My strippers from my oem Chinese 200 round vest slide smoothly in my pointy sticks
                      Beans and Bullets

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                      • #12
                        MajorSideburns
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2013
                        • 1657

                        Originally posted by boris badinov
                        How is the Yugo not an sks, exactly?
                        He means in relation to the California ban. The Yugo is not an SKS in the same way that your off list California legal Anderson AM-15 lower is not a banned Colt AR-15 lower. The ban on SKS with detachable magazines comes from the Roberti-Roos banned by name list. The photo in the DOJ guide shows a Chinese SKS and states "SKS usually found on left side of receiver". https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a.../aws-guide.pdf The original ban with this language also listed all AK and AR pattern rifles, and a subsequent case ruled that language was too vague and banned guns had to be listed by make and model not "series". I believe the Norinco SKS-D was added to that named list. Most importers put "SKS" on the Russian and Chinese ones but the Yugos tend to have the actual model as Zastava M59 or M59/66 and don't feature the actual word "SKS" in the engravings. I personally wouldn't risk playing this game of semantics in such a tyrannical state especially with lack of case law but I understand the argument.

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                        • #13
                          boris badinov
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 614

                          Originally posted by MajorSideburns
                          He means in relation to the California ban. The Yugo is not an SKS in the same way that your off list California legal Anderson AM-15 lower is not a banned Colt AR-15 lower. The ban on SKS with detachable magazines comes from the Roberti-Roos banned by name list. The photo in the DOJ guide shows a Chinese SKS and states "SKS usually found on left side of receiver". https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a.../aws-guide.pdf The original ban with this language also listed all AK and AR pattern rifles, and a subsequent case ruled that language was too vague and banned guns had to be listed by make and model not "series". I believe the Norinco SKS-D was added to that named list. Most importers put "SKS" on the Russian and Chinese ones but the Yugos tend to have the actual model as Zastava M59 or M59/66 and don't feature the actual word "SKS" in the engravings. I personally wouldn't risk playing this game of semantics in such a tyrannical state especially with lack of case law but I understand the argument.
                          Sounds like a pretty weak argument. While not all of the Yugos bear the SKS engraving, some of them do.

                          Ohio Ordnance, Mitchell's, SDI, and TGKnoxville, all stamped "SKS" on their Yugo Imports.

                          Not to mention the fact that barring stock wood, the M59 is an exact copy of post 1954, final Soviet sks design. Or that major parts and components are interchangeable between all of the national variants.
                          Last edited by boris badinov; 06-24-2023, 8:23 AM.
                          "Just the facts, ma'am."

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                          • #14
                            Dan_Eastvale
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 10068

                            Is an SKS, Isn't an SKS
                            Is an AK, Isn't an AK etc.

                            In our lifetime they'll eliminate all confusion and a huge listing by two words:

                            Semi Automatic

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                            • #15
                              IrishJoe3
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 3804

                              Originally posted by boris badinov
                              Sounds like a pretty weak argument. While not all of the Yugos bear the SKS engraving, some of them do.

                              .
                              It's also the same argument they made off list lowers a thing. Even through we all call them AR15s, legally AR-15 is technically only one specific model. So a clone with a different model number isn't an AR-15.

                              SKS is the name for the Soviet designed and manufactured carbine of 1945; "Samozaryadny Karabin sistemy Simonova"

                              The same pattern carbine I have was made in Yugoslavia in the 50s-60s and it's not technically an SKS; it's a Model 59.

                              Technicality? Yes. Just like off list lowers. That said your right it's probably not smart to put a removable mag on a M59 if you want to avoid drama.
                              Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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