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  • SkyStorm82
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 1745

    I mailed mine off on the 27th of December. Card was charged the following week but I'm still waiting on the actuall FFL.
    Strike Hold!
    2/504th P.I.R. White Devils

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    • 2DoorImpala
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 4698

      Dumb question:

      Is this for the CLEO( do i leave it blank?) or for me to sign?





      And under I am paying the application fee part, do i put my name in there?



      Thanks, planning to get it shipped out when my ink arrives

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      • Cokebottle
        Señor Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2009
        • 32373

        Originally posted by 2DoorImpala
        Dumb question:

        Is this for the CLEO( do i leave it blank?) or for me to sign?
        Title = "Collector"
        And under I am paying the application fee part, do i put my name in there?



        Thanks, planning to get it shipped out when my ink arrives
        Yes.
        "Please complete to ensure payment is credited to the correct application"

        Keep in mind that we are not applying as a business, but a similar form is used for a business FFL.
        When Brian applied for the FFL for Riflegear, he would have used his card, but on that blank would have put something like "Riflegear Inc" or "Shark Enterprises dba Riflegear"
        - Rich

        Originally posted by dantodd
        A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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        • 2DoorImpala
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 4698

          Thanks,


          I meant to put if I put my name over where it says "Im paying....". The way the put it confused me a bit

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          • twoguesses
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 19

            Has anyone used certified mail to the atf for applying for their 03FFL? Wondering if for some reason it doesn't show as delivered online when mailing to the ATF PO box in the instructions.

            I mailed my app. to ATF and my CLEO on the same day (1/31/11) CLEO shows as delivered but FFL app to ATF just shows as 'accepted' (by USPS). The app hasn't been returned and it doesn't show as delivered. My CC also hasn't been charged either. Starting to think that my certified letter has been lost. So much for sending it certified. Has anybody had this problem of a certified letter not showing as delivered but it went through?

            Thanks for any insight.

            UPDATE:

            Worst case confirmed today. I go to the post office and they tell me that they have no further information. That it was sent to a PO box and that it was likely delivered but they forgot to scan it in. I tell them that this is unlikely and explain the processing fee and how it hasn't been charged.

            Clerk: 'we have no further information'
            Me: 'This is a certified letter right? This went certified?'
            Clerk: 'Yes'
            Me: 'So in other words my certified letter is lost'
            Clerk: -blank stare-
            Me: Deep breath and repeat to self (it's not her fault) then reply: 'Thank you very much for your help ma'am'

            Update 2:

            Spoke with ATF today and they don't have my application. Rather then being upset i find it more amusing then anything that the USPS lost my certified letter. Back to square one........
            Last edited by twoguesses; 02-16-2011, 8:01 AM. Reason: update

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            • 2DoorImpala
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 4698

              Sent my app on 2/12/11. My CC was charged today
              Now I waits.....

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              • cj65
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 33

                Alright gents,

                Thanks for all the valuable info. I actually read about every post. One time when filling out the online pdf, I checked the hunting license box, which appears to me that you cannot uncheck before I realized it did not apply to citizens of the USA. So, I started over. I titled myself Collector. It is great how the CLEO part auto fills. I was trying to click on boxes that I missed in the first section to ATF in the CLEO section, but just had to go back and fill it in in the ATF section. So, I am printing and sending it in right now. I will let all know when my cc is charged, and I am sportin my new license.
                Best regards,

                CJ65

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                • wildhawker
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 14150

                  In the same vein, my application was sent to ATF via Certified/Return Receipt US Mail. They show it as received/signed for on December 5, 2010. However, no movement to this time. I sent an email to ATF inquiring as to status, and will follow up via phone tomorrow.

                  -Brandon



                  Originally posted by twoguesses
                  Has anyone used certified mail to the atf for applying for their 03FFL? Wondering if for some reason it doesn't show as delivered online when mailing to the ATF PO box in the instructions.

                  I mailed my app. to ATF and my CLEO on the same day (1/31/11) CLEO shows as delivered but FFL app to ATF just shows as 'accepted' (by USPS). The app hasn't been returned and it doesn't show as delivered. My CC also hasn't been charged either. Starting to think that my certified letter has been lost. So much for sending it certified. Has anybody had this problem of a certified letter not showing as delivered but it went through?

                  Thanks for any insight.

                  UPDATE:

                  Worst case confirmed today. I go to the post office and they tell me that they have no further information. That it was sent to a PO box and that it was likely delivered but they forgot to scan it in. I tell them that this is unlikely and explain the processing fee and how it hasn't been charged.

                  Clerk: 'we have no further information'
                  Me: 'This is a certified letter right? This went certified?'
                  Clerk: 'Yes'
                  Me: 'So in other words my certified letter is lost'
                  Clerk: -blank stare-
                  Me: Deep breath and repeat to self (it's not her fault) then reply: 'Thank you very much for your help ma'am'

                  Update 2:

                  Spoke with ATF today and they don't have my application. Rather then being upset i find it more amusing then anything that the USPS lost my certified letter. Back to square one........
                  Brandon Combs

                  I do not read private messages, and my inbox is usually full. If you need to reach me, please email me instead.

                  My comments are not the official position or a statement of any organization unless stated otherwise. My comments are not legal advice; if you want or need legal advice, hire a lawyer.

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                  • D53
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2248

                    Originally posted by D53
                    I printed the form off the link and mailed out yesterday ( didn't actually go out until today) but hopefully I'll see a $30 charge on my card in a week or two and get my 03 in a couple weeks.

                    Edit: Charge to my card was made!
                    1/14/2011 1/15/2011 ATF LICENSING CENTER WASHINGTON DC $30.00
                    well here it is 3/2/11 and still nothing in the mail from the ATF. I guess the emailing or calling will start tomorrow......
                    "Because 4 inches is big to a midget" - Dave Attell

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                    • G60
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 3989

                      Here's some info I found regarding sending certified mail to PO boxes:

                      "When the USPS letter carrier delivers the letter the process that documents when the letter was received at the delivery address is a little bit different.
                      A delivery notification card is placed inside the PO Box instructing the recipient they have a Certified Mail waiting for pick up from the Post Office window clerk. Because USPS requires someone to sign for each Certified Mail letter the delivery notification card must be presented to the window clerk at the USPS Post Office. Then the recipient is presented the delivery confirmation Signature card and the date and time of the delivery confirmation are electronically captured and recorded by USPS."

                      So, when you send certified mail to a PO box, the mail doesn't get put into the PO box, it gets held somewhere else. depending how often the ATF checks their mail, who knows what USPS does to the mail set aside. I had thought of this and decided to risk sending it regular first class mail.

                      i sent my form 7CR in the beginning of february using regular first class mail. My card was charged on 2/7. haven't received anything else yet. i'll keep you posted in here.
                      Last edited by G60; 03-07-2011, 2:19 PM.
                      "Any unarmed people are slaves, or are subject to slavery at any given moment." - Dr. Huey P. Newton

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                      • D53
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2248

                        Well I finally got a hold of someone yesterday at the ATF and found out that in the middle of December, they reorginized the work schedule over in DC and they have been back logged.

                        Good news for me is that my 03 is still in pending status
                        "Because 4 inches is big to a midget" - Dave Attell

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                        • eshubert
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 3

                          The waiting is killing me. CC charged on 1/25. Tomorrow will be 7 weeks without my FFL03. I can't wait to start spending money. Come on ATF work faster.

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                          • sephy
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1146

                            I'm with you guys. Just checking in here to make sure I'm not alone on the wait. Gets exhausting checking the mail and feeling let down every time. I have a feeling I'll need another safe once this thing finally gets here!

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                            • novass
                              Member
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 157

                              going to try c&r

                              ok im going to try the pdf form what do i put in the total app. fees ? is it just 30 bucks?

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                              • zepher11
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 7

                                BATF cashed my check on December 29, 2010. Still waiting...waiting...waiting...waiting....

                                I'm almost at the point of not checking the mail any longer...many deals have come and gone...

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