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  • mossberg500
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 634

    Saiga 7.62x39 is this legal to posses in CA?

    i wanted to buy a simi-auto centerfire rifle that eats and spit cheap russian ammo just for plinking can on the range, is it legal to posses a SAIGA 7.62x39 rifle in California?
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    1mean76
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 389

    ok first you need to ask yourself what dos cali let you have???? lol im pretty sure if it looks like a ak you'll get in trouble. and if you can get it you will have to do something gay to it like a fixed mag or some b.s.

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    • #3
      Black Majik
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 9689

      Originally posted by mossberg500
      i wanted to buy a simi-auto centerfire rifle that eats and spit cheap russian ammo just for plinking can on the range, is it legal to posses a SAIGA 7.62x39 rifle in California?
      Yes, it's legal.

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      • #4
        Shane916
        Calguns Addict
        • Feb 2006
        • 5004

        Originally posted by mossberg500
        i wanted to buy a simi-auto centerfire rifle that eats and spit cheap russian ammo just for plinking can on the range, is it legal to posses a SAIGA 7.62x39 rifle in California?
        Go for an SKS

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        • #5
          Jpach
          Veteran Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 4707

          Um first off 1mean76 I suggest you look around here a little bit on Calguns and actually learn something before its time for you to give someone "Duh!" advice. I say this because you are dead *** wrong. To the Mossberg 500, Hello and welcome to Calguns! You may definitely get a Saiga here in CA and as long as you keep it in its original configuration you may have it as a readily-detachable mag setup without a mag lock or anything "gay" like that. However, if you want it to look more like an AK then you can get it converted so that it has a pistol grip. You will have to use a bullet button or other mag lock if you do go that route tho.
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          • #6
            DedEye
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2006
            • 8655

            Originally posted by 1mean76
            ok first you need to ask yourself what dos cali let you have???? lol im pretty sure if it looks like a ak you'll get in trouble. and if you can get it you will have to do something gay to it like a fixed mag or some b.s.


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            • #7
              technique
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2008
              • 10639

              Originally posted by 1mean76
              ok first you need to ask yourself what dos cali let you have???? lol im pretty sure if it looks like a ak you'll get in trouble. and if you can get it you will have to do something gay to it like a fixed mag or some b.s.
              You have got to be kidding... Read man, read...







              OP...yes, yes you can get one. I also suggest that you read up on it first. Make sure you know what you are getting, and what other options you have in comparison...


              SAIGA in all its glory, its a fine choice...I needs me a few too.
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              • #8
                tenpercentfirearms
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Apr 2005
                • 13007

                Originally posted by mossberg500
                i wanted to buy a simi-auto centerfire rifle that eats and spit cheap russian ammo just for plinking can on the range, is it legal to posses a SAIGA 7.62x39 rifle in California?
                That question depends? First, you need to know if it is the same Saiga listed in the Kasler List. http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/infobuls/kaslist.pdf

                So if it is a Kalashnikov USA Saiga, then the answer is no, it is an illegal assault weapon.

                However, in all likelihood it is a Russian American Armory Saiga, in which case it can be legal. However, you would then need to make sure the rifle complies with PC 12276.1 http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/dwcl/12275.php

                12276.1. (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
                (1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
                (A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
                (B) A thumbhole stock.
                (C) A folding or telescoping stock.
                (D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
                (E) A flash suppressor.
                (F) A forward pistol grip.
                (2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
                (3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
                So if it has a detachable magazine and a pistol grip or a thumbhole stock (which is possible), then it would also be illegal.

                I found all of that information on this lovely link. http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/in...main_page=ar15

                I think that store also has one or two of those Saiga 7.62x39mms left, but probably not for long. If you are in driving distance of Bakersfield, CA, go check them out. www.tenpercentfirearms.com

                Originally posted by 1mean76
                ok first you need to ask yourself what dos cali let you have???? lol im pretty sure if it looks like a ak you'll get in trouble. and if you can get it you will have to do something gay to it like a fixed mag or some b.s.
                I'm pretty sure you just made an idiot of yourself. First, there is no law that bans anything that looks like an AK. Quit being a tool. Second, it takes a gay to know what a gay rifle is. I have never seen a gay rifle so it puzzles me that there are people out there that know and can judge what gay rifles are. They must see them in gay bars. Which one do you hang out in?

                AKs are not illegal, being gay is not illegal, and unfortunately so is being stupid. So quit being all three.

                Next thing you know you will probably say this guy is gay.

                Last edited by tenpercentfirearms; 02-12-2009, 6:39 AM.
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                • #9
                  Ed_Hazard
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 5146

                  No problem there tenpercent, takes a real man to own a pink firearm...The crocs on the other hand are a much harder sell. Jk
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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44092

                    Originally posted by 1mean76
                    ok first you need to ask yourself what dos cali let you have???? lol im pretty sure if it looks like a ak you'll get in trouble. and if you can get it you will have to do something gay to it like a fixed mag or some b.s.
                    After two months and 34 posts here, I'd think you actually learned something. I guess it's not impossible for you to be as dumb as your post makes you appear to be. I've always believed that anyone who uses the word "gay" like you do must be still hiding in the closet. So, when you are ready to come out, feel free to contact a few of the openly gay members on this forum. I'm sure they will be happy to help you understand your feelings of anger and california firearms laws as well. You really need help.
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                    • #11
                      RedDawn
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                      • Dec 2007
                      • 2234

                      Totally overlooked the crocs. You guys pay too much attention to minor details.

                      Originally posted by Ed_Hazard
                      No problem there tenpercent, takes a real man to own a pink firearm...The crocs on the other hand are a much harder sell. Jk
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                      • #12
                        Kestryll
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                        • Oct 2005
                        • 21580

                        Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                        Croc wearing fruit loop.....




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                        • #13
                          WokMaster1
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                          • Mar 2006
                          • 5436

                          Originally posted by tenpercentfirearms
                          FDE Crocs. Cool!!! Group buy?
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                          • #14
                            Black Majik
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 9689

                            Damn. I'm actually glad that I registered here prior to the whole OLL thing. While I didn't have to research much except read posts throughout the years so it becomes secondary (commom) knowledge now... you folks are harsh on the new guys!




                            1mean76,

                            Take the time and read up on the AW flowchart and posts here to better understand the legalities of Saiga and OLL rifles. Wes detailed the legality of an RAA Saiga in his post.

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                            • #15
                              motorhead
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3409

                              the "trouble" aks will get you into is the fact that they go through ammo like **** through a goose. at today's prices and scarcity, that's trouble. oh, and they're very, very evil!
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