With Muzzle-Braked Rifles, Are Ranges Going to Be Insufferable?

[Erion929]

Since all of this is all new to me, it was quite overwhelming trying to research this. Especially since everyone is trying to figure out what is and what won't be allowed with the new laws coming on the books. It was a good case of analysis paralysis! LOL! At $45 and free shipping, I just pulled the trigger. I wanted to get 'something' on the rifle that is hopefully good to go.

When I shot it with the Linear Comp, I didn't notice anything different/louder with the shots. I was firing a mix of 223 and 556 ammo.

Hope you find something you like!

Yeah, that's where I'm at. Had 3 or 4 brakes that I almost decided on buying from...each time convinced that was the one I wanted. Then a simple, boring thread protector. Now I'm onto the linear comp wagon or two-part comp/shield, lol.

Agree, does suck we have to start buying crap to go featureless on every rifle....what a waste, for no good reason. Oh, I forgot...it's for the children

[Mr. Torgue]

This is why everyone should support the Hearing Protection Act, HR 3799. By removing suppressors from being NFA items, they will become more readily available and used. This will reduce the noise and blast for people shooting next to us when we go shooting indoors and at packed ranges.

While I agree with supporting the HPA, I doubt California won't craft its own laws to keep them out of the hands of civilians. This state hates everything firearm related even if it means more issues.

[Sigbird]

Any thoughts on the Sure Fire Pro Comp? Legal or not?

[Whiterabbit]

never seen it, don't know anything about it, but if the front opening is bullet-hole sized, probably GTG. If it's wide open, probably a flash hider.

[Jimi Jah]

Are your linear comps Cali-legal for featureless non-flash hiding....or are you registering?

I use Levang, Keneti-tech, Troy Claymore and BRT here. All of them have no side slots like a flash hider. All have either a small hole in front or a bunch of small holes around the bullet exit hole.

The AR pistol has a Troy, it will be registered. The rest are made featureless.

Some of those brands advertise "flash hiding abilities" but they are all linear compensators, not flash hiders.

Yes, they work too. The Levang is the most effective in reducing noise/blast. I can shoot .22LR outdoors with it and I don't need plugs or cans, it's that quiet.

[NIKSD]

Any thoughts on the Sure Fire Pro Comp? Legal or not?

Seems legal.

Guys, somewhere in here I read the DOJ may use the manufacture description in order to determine if the unit is legal or not. If it is advertised as unit reducing flash signature, even if it is called muzzle brake, it may be classified as a flash hider by DOJ. Somebody should name the court case regarding this issue.

[Ki6vsm]

Seems legal.

Guys, somewhere in here I read the DOJ may use the manufacture description in order to determine if the unit is legal or not. If it is advertised as unit reducing flash signature, even if it is called muzzle brake, it may be classified as a flash hider by DOJ. Somebody should name the court case regarding this issue.

Here's the judgement regarding determination of a muzzle device. First thing they look at is if it was "designed to reduce" flash. And where they look for that is in a device's packaging lit or other marketing lit.

See paragraph numbers 5 through 15:

http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Hunt_Defendants_Declaration-of-Ignatius-Chinn-In-Support-of-Defendants-Motion-for-Summary-Judgment.pdf

[NIKSD]

Here's the judgement regarding determination of a muzzle device. First thing they look at is if it was "designed to reduce" flash. And where they look for that is in a device's packaging lit or other marketing lit.

See paragraph numbers 5 through 15:

http://michellawyers.com/wp-content/...y-Judgment.pdf

Bingo! Thank you!

This is the exact reason why I removed the muzzle brakes from my Scars and other rifles. Many manufactures will advertise their brakes as a brake with flash reducing capabilities- DOJ will automatically count them as a flash hiders. Guys, read very carefully the manufacture description, on package and web page.

[Erion929]

I just decided to go with the Griffin Armament M4SD Linear Comp...to be nice to all my range neighbors

Best price I found....and free shipping

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XHP556LC

[Tunabliss]

I have linear compensators on all my AR's and just added on to my JR 9mm. I think they make a huge difference at the range and in the enjoyment of the rifle.

[Whiterabbit]

I had one on a 338 lapua, and amazingly, same thing. Sold the rifle, the day it arrived the guy said "why'd you put a flash hider on it?"

[Whiterabbit]

Bingo! Thank you!

This is the exact reason why I removed the muzzle brakes from my Scars and other rifles. Many manufactures will advertise their brakes as a brake with flash reducing capabilities- DOJ will automatically count them as a flash hiders. Guys, read very carefully the manufacture description, on package and web page.

What if I home make a muzzle device? 5/8-24 taps, as it turns out, are very cheap.

[JeffSD]

I shoot at an indoor range and when someone shows up with a brake, that's it. I call it a day. It's intolerable. I have a flash suppressor on mine now; if I was staying in California I would put a linear compensator on it, or a thread protector. Probably a linear comp though, to manage concussion and sound. I hate brakes.

[adamjay]

I am pretty set on thread protector. We have just a couple posts on this thread that layout a marginal benefit to the muzzle brake for a certain applications, and a multitude of posts on the downsides. I just dont see any reason for myself, maybe I'm missing something.

Then again, It would be a shame to miss out on any opportunity to dump another nonfunctional $100 into an AR!

[NapalmCheese]

I just dont see any reason for myself, maybe I'm missing something.

Bro, if you don't have a muzzle break on your AR your splits are going to suffer.

Brah, what happens when SEAL Team 6 asks you to help them kill terrorists? You're going to walk into that firefight with a thread protector? How about when Jerry Miculek hand picks you as his next protege? You're going to do the man proud with a linear compensator?

Brosef, without a muzzle break you aren't realizing your own tier 1 performance or the tier 1 performance of your combat ready weapon system AR platform combat arm.