With Muzzle-Braked Rifles, Are Ranges Going to Be Insufferable?

[dwtt]

This is why everyone should support the Hearing Protection Act, HR 3799. By removing suppressors from being NFA items, they will become more readily available and used. This will reduce the noise and blast for people shooting next to us when we go shooting indoors and at packed ranges.

[Tere_Hanges]

One of the many reasons why I dont go to indoor ranges.

I have brakes on my .308 ARs but never understood the need for one on a .223 except for competition.

It seems like a lot of people with brakes try to find the worst spot to set up in order to go out of their way to annoy others. Either that or they are just eejits that are oblivious to everything except they tend to be real sensitive when somebody is doing something that annoys them.

Saw a couple of mall minjas at the range a few weeks ago with braked .223s muzzle sweeping the line. I was more annoyed by the clouds of smelly gas that I could literally see blow down the range from the sides of the brake. I dont know what loads they were using but I had never seen that before.

[AragornElessar86]

The answer is yes. Never understood the need for a muzzle brake on a .223 rifle. Just put on a damn thread protector and call it a day already.

[ZombieLivesMatter]

I am sure there will be more, but for me, I like both:



That's a Kineti-Tech Muzzle Brake with Concussion/Redirector Sleeve.

Site: http://www.kineti-tech.com/kineti-te...leeve-2-piece/

Thanks, was going to buy a ferfrans but this is half the cost.

[Erion929]

One of the many reasons why I dont go to indoor ranges.

I have brakes on my .308 ARs but never understood the need for one on a .223 except for competition.

It seems like a lot of people with brakes try to find the worst spot to set up in order to go out of their way to annoy others. Either that or they are just eejits that are oblivious to everything except they tend to be real sensitive when somebody is doing something that annoys them.

Saw a couple of mall minjas at the range a few weeks ago with braked .223s muzzle sweeping the line. I was more annoyed by the clouds of smelly gas that I could literally see blow down the range from the sides of the brake. I dont know what loads they were using but I had never seen that before.

The answer is yes. Never understood the need for a muzzle brake on a .223 rifle. Just put on a damn thread protector and call it a day already.

Well, in my case, just researching what my options are since the featureless route requires removal of any flash hiding devices. Everyone and their mother has been talking pure muzzle brakes, but I've found out the cons are a huge consideration. Wasn't choosing a brake just to be a tactical mall ninja.....

Then, the linear compensators came up for discussion....but maybe they are just a little more than a barrel extension, in the case of .223 rounds.

Yes, maybe a thread protector is the answer for me.

[Ki6vsm]

Well, in my case, just researching what my options are since the featureless route requires removal of any flash hiding devices. Everyone and their mother has been talking pure muzzle brakes, but I've found out the cons are a huge consideration. Wasn't choosing a brake just to be a tactical mall ninja.....

Then, the linear compensators came up for discussion....but maybe they are just a little more than a barrel extension, in the case of .223 rounds.

Yes, maybe a thread protector is the answer for me.

I've known the downside of brakes for many years. My friend has had a Bushmaster with an AK brake; bought it back in the late 90s. His barrel never moved a mm when he was firing it, but I hated standing nearby when he was firing it! The birdcage on my RAW made my rifle sound pretty tame by comparison.

I have brakes and I have thread protectors. I see no problem swapping back and forth as needed. Just requires that I keep a 3/4" wrench handy. the only situation where I might really want the brake on my rifle is for long-range shooting. Since I'll mostly be having to spot my own shots, the less the rifle and scope jump around the better. I think a brake is helpful for minimizing movement.

[XDJYo]

You and XDJYo care to share any brand/models of linear comps that you have/like/dislike?


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Here's the one I have on my M&P Sport II. It's a Kaw Valley Linear Comp. Inexpensive and quick shipping from JoeBobs. I bought a US GI A2 fixed stock too and shipping was free. I ordered it on Tuesday and I had it on Thursday! NICE!!!

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Kaw_Valley_Precision_22cal_Linear_Comp_1_2x28_Blac_p/kvp-linear223-blk.htm

The description says nothing about any flashiness being hidden. It does redirect the gasses and sound away from the shooter and also, doesn't send the noise to the guy/gal to the left/right of you either.

Amazing all of the extra money we have to spend to be featureless so stay compliant with the law and avoid having an 'assault weapon'.

Happy shooting and be safe.

[ryang85]

I have a huge brake on my lr 308 that works perfectly and it is LOUD, It leaves a pretty good Shockwave, I would not want to take it to a range, it would give the guy next to me a big time headache after one shot.

[Erion929]

Here's the one I have on my M&P Sport II. It's a Kaw Valley Linear Comp. Inexpensive and quick shipping from JoeBobs. I bought a US GI A2 fixed stock too and shipping was free. I ordered it on Tuesday and I had it on Thursday! NICE!!!

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Kaw_Valley_Precision_22cal_Linear_Comp_1_2x28_Blac_p/kvp-linear223-blk.htm

The description says nothing about any flashiness being hidden. It does redirect the gasses and sound away from the shooter and also, doesn't send the noise to the guy/gal to the left/right of you either.

Amazing all of the extra money we have to spend to be featureless so stay compliant with the law and avoid having an 'assault weapon'.

Happy shooting and be safe.

Thanks, XDJ

Seems the Griffin Armament M4SD Linear Comp gets good reviews, too. It is linear, plus has 3 small holes on top for some reduction of muzzle rise. Also notes it is not for flash suppression...good.

Halfway down this page, for the review, and the video shows almost no side blast:

http://www.militarymorons.com/weapons/ar.access4.html

[Joezamboni]

I read the first post, why would you run a brake on a 9mm AR? Is there even enough gas for there to be a benefit?

[Devilmonkey89]

Some interesting muzzle brakes, comps, and 2-piece sleeved brakes....thanks. Kinda like the option of using a brake or screwing on the directional sleeve

The more I research, it seems it could be difficult for agents to decipher what is on the muzzle while you are standing there shooting. There are just too many types of brakes, comps, and combo units out there (talking of being featureless). Seems there's going to be a lot of confusion and erroneous claims in both directions.

Fugg.

^^^This is why you get a fire-breathing, concussive muzzle brake so it is clear that it isn't in fact a flash hider but being able to screw on a linear comp sleeve is quite nice.

[Erion929]

I read the first post, why would you run a brake on a 9mm AR? Is there even enough gas for there to be a benefit?

Dunno....but he had it.

Like many of us, maybe he was just trying out a muzzle device

[XDJYo]

Thanks, XDJ

Seems the Griffin Armament M4SD Linear Comp gets good reviews, too. It is linear, plus has 3 small holes on top for some reduction of muzzle rise. Also notes it is not for flash suppression...good.

Halfway down this page, for the review, and the video shows almost no side blast:

http://www.militarymorons.com/weapons/ar.access4.html

Since all of this is all new to me, it was quite overwhelming trying to research this. Especially since everyone is trying to figure out what is and what won't be allowed with the new laws coming on the books. It was a good case of analysis paralysis! LOL! At $45 and free shipping, I just pulled the trigger. I wanted to get 'something' on the rifle that is hopefully good to go.

When I shot it with the Linear Comp, I didn't notice anything different/louder with the shots. I was firing a mix of 223 and 556 ammo.

Hope you find something you like!

[Mr. Torgue]

wont change much.

But if you want to change you, then install you a linear compensator. They are GREAT. seriously great. best kept secret, except I'd prefer if other people used them more.

I've never seen anyone use a linear compensator. I plan on running the ferfrans brake and CRD on my communist AR. If I like it enough I might run it on the SCAR. That way when I'm by myself I can use the brake by itself but when others are around I can keep from having others hate me every time I pull the trigger. If lantac would commit to one in 30 Cal I would consider it.

[Whiterabbit]

I rest my case.