Frustrated... can't shoot 1/2 moa

[Exodus343]

Exodus
I am so good I could even get Postal to shoot small.LOLROFLMAO

To shoot 1/2 MOA at 100 yards isn't all that hard with a great set-up and several posters on this website do it routinely.

The stocks on these guns are extremely rigid with wide flat forends.They use scopes with atleast 36 power and there trigger pull is 1.5-2 ounces.The front bag is soaked in laundry starch for several days so when it dries it fits the stock like a glove.They use tape with carnuba wax so the gun recoils rearward without any unwanted movement or stickiness to the bags.Once properly set-up a heavygun doesn't even need a scope.
Watch this video and notice the gun recoiling in the bags.It is extremely smooth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfHqzlCPgS8
If his gun shot 1/2 MOA at 100 yards he would throw the barrel away

If you lived closer we could pull your gun down one piece at a time and you could see the affect each piece has on the final accuracy of your gun.

In your example the ammo needs to be looked at as well.
You don't need great bullets or sorted bullets for 1/2 MOA at 100 yards but good bullets help get rid of flyers.You mentioned a powder charge but didn't mention if this was yourt most accurate charge or one posted by other shooters?
Your scope is monumental in shooting small groups at 100 yards.With the higher magnification scopes you aim smaller and more consistently than you do with a 3x9 with a heavy duplex reticle.
You also need a trigger light enough so your not jerking the gun around trying to make it fire.I have never seen a benchrest rifle with more than 6 ounces of trigger pull weight.
You also mentioned the gun shot better off of a bipod than it did off of bags.I have seen shooters resting there barrel on the front bag instead of there stock and this ruins any chance at all of shooting a small group.You also need to remove all of your sling swivels so they don't grab your front or rear bag.
I own several 700 5R's and PSS's but no rifle like yours.I would imagine the stock is very flimsy so moving the front bag rearward toward the action will usually aid accuracy not hurt it.
I am sure Postal knows more about accuracy than every poster here so he can critique my post and point out any errors and get you shooting small.

so you are the famous LynnJr.
where exactly are you located?

and I have a HS Sendero stock

[Merc1138]

Lynnjr... is a member here. Apparently, according to him... he is the shiznit for anything everything long range/accuracy...

No one, no where, apparently knows as much as he does.

It just was a joke.

Not directed at you....

Now why'd you have to go and do that? You know he's like Beetlejuice. Ya'll typed his name 3 times and "poof" there he is.

[ar15barrels]

Now why'd you have to go and do that?
You know he's like Beetlejuice. Ya'll typed his name 3 times and "poof" there he is.

This is not gonna end well.

[HK Dave]

Now why'd you have to go and do that? You know he's like Beetlejuice. Ya'll typed his name 3 times and "poof" there he is.

lmao

[HK Dave]

One other secret..........99+% of the people on here can't shoot 1/2MOA.

I have guns that have shot better than 1/4 MOA and I shoot my rifles 3-4 times a month and I have to work hard, get lucky with the conditions and the stars have to align to shoot two groups in a row into 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.

This ^^^

I would add the following...

Most folks that work at gun stores probably rarely get to shoot. I'd put money on the fact that they probably can't shoot worth a damn. (let's not even begin with inet commandos)

But when it comes time to sell you that chrome lined, mass produced AR15, you know damn well they are going to say it will shoot sub moa guaranteed.

Sure it will... one 3 shot group out of 20... absolutely!

[Exodus343]

This ^^^

I would add the following...

Most folks that work at gun stores probably rarely get to shoot. I'd put money on the fact that they probably can't shoot worth a damn. (let's not even begin with inet commandos)

But when it comes time to sell you that chrome lined, mass produced AR15, you know damn well they are going to say it will shoot sub moa guaranteed.

Sure it will... one 3 shot group out of 20... absolutely!

LOL

that's why I avoid window shopping at gun stores and go in for PPTs or DROSing something I already researched about

[Merc1138]

This ^^^

I would add the following...

Most folks that work at gun stores probably rarely get to shoot. I'd put money on the fact that they probably can't shoot worth a damn. (let's not even begin with inet commandos)

But when it comes time to sell you that chrome lined, mass produced AR15, you know damn well they are going to say it will shoot sub moa guaranteed.

Sure it will... one 3 shot group out of 20... absolutely!

That's why I posted my comment about people cherry picking groups for photos

If anyone were to believe that so many people on calguns(or even a lot of other websites) were really shooting half moa consistently when they go to the range, at the same time you'd have to wonder why no one ever stayed at the range for longer than 20 minutes.

[CSACANNONEER]

The FCSA's "Screamer Program" recognizes each time a .6moa group or better is shot. The top shooters routinely don't shoot .6moa groups consistently. No one shoots .5moa without investing some quality trigger time. 3 range trips is a start but, don't kick yourself because you're not superhuman.

[Exodus343]

The FCSA's "Screamer Program" recognizes each time a .6moa group or better is shot. The top shooters routinely don't shoot .6moa groups consistently. No one shoots .5moa without investing some quality trigger time. 3 range trips is a start but, don't kick yourself because you're not superhuman.

but my mom said I could be anything I wanted to be...
and I want to be a .5 MOA shooter

lol yeah, I really need to meet up with you more experienced guys and really learn my fundamentals the right way

youtube videos just can't get close enough as the real deal

[vliberatore]

but my mom said I could be anything I wanted to be...
and I want to be a .5 MOA shooter

lol yeah, I really need to meet up with you more experienced guys and really learn my fundamentals the right way

youtube videos just can't get close enough as the real deal

Are you on caprc.com yet?

[John Browning]

Internet rifle range meets reality.

.5 MOA is a lot harder in the real world than it is on the internet.

[Exodus343]

Are you on caprc.com yet?

yes I am
same name as my CG name

waiting for spring 14 to roll along, Randall said that's when the clinics are going to be held, and I really need to go to clinic A to get my s*** down lol

Internet rifle range meets reality.

.5 MOA is a lot harder in the real world than it is on the internet.

yup, I just thought that .5 moa was easily obtainable since all the pictures I seen here were groups I wish I can shoot....
but I realized that it's nearly impossible to shoot those kind of groups every single time

[HK Dave]

Makes you feel a little better finding out that people don't REALLY look like they do in the magazines and movies huh?

[mark501w]

Check your stock & scope for loosness.

[Exodus343]

Makes you feel a little better finding out that people don't REALLY look like they do in the magazines and movies huh?

LOL

no just realized that, I am actually shooting and learning from my failures
while also realizing that there is a lot of precision shooter commandos on calguns