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Spring $60 for 2 boxes of ammo. Either some Hornady Amax 168s BTHP Match ammo or FGMM. Then see what you are capable of shooting.
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Originally posted by fighterpilot562 -
Wait....
"a few times...."
Even though this is your 3rd time to the range with this rifle?
Most people say a 'couple' as in a man and woman are a "couple"... meaning 2....
A 'few' mean more than a 'couple' (two) more like meaning 3 or maybe 4....
So how did you do sub moa a "a few times" when you've only been to the range 3 times.. and NOT done it yet?
Not nit picking... just want some clarification.Comment
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AS the others are saying your third time behind a bolt gun its mostly you.
But do you know someone that can custom load for you?Comment
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Lynnjr... is a member here. Apparently, according to him... he is the shiznit for anything everything long range/accuracy...
No one, no where, apparently knows as much as he does.
It just was a joke.
Not directed at you....Comment
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"Adversity Introduces Us To Ourselves"
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Oh sorry, thought I read you didn't have loading gear lol.Comment
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One other secret..........99+% of the people on here can't shoot 1/2MOA.
I have guns that have shot better than 1/4 MOA and I shoot my rifles 3-4 times a month and I have to work hard, get lucky with the conditions and the stars have to align to shoot two groups in a row into 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.Frank
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I've been shooting a long time and in the last 10 yrs I've only seen one guy did back to back 5 round groups of .5 MOA or better. Why do you think real sniper rifles like R&D Precision Guardian, Tango 51 and GAP rifles costs anywhere from $3,000 - $6000. This is just for the gun. The cost difference is .5" capability, a lot of medium tier guns such as the Rem PSS (LTR is a shorten version) can do MOA, but not .5 consistently. A lot of work goes into getting a rifle accurate.
As far as reloading, you will also need to weigh everything bullet, same brass lot, everything the same.Comment
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already on that
i am measuring each ogive of each bullet and putting them in lots
so much more consistent with my Hornady bullet comparator tool
sub moa is what I am aiming for .5 MOA is something I want to do after I finish college where I actually will have the $ to buy a GAP or a Surgeon action"Adversity Introduces Us To Ourselves"
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I am so good I could even get Postal to shoot small.LOLROFLMAO
To shoot 1/2 MOA at 100 yards isn't all that hard with a great set-up and several posters on this website do it routinely.
The stocks on these guns are extremely rigid with wide flat forends.They use scopes with atleast 36 power and there trigger pull is 1.5-2 ounces.The front bag is soaked in laundry starch for several days so when it dries it fits the stock like a glove.They use tape with carnuba wax so the gun recoils rearward without any unwanted movement or stickiness to the bags.Once properly set-up a heavygun doesn't even need a scope.
Watch this video and notice the gun recoiling in the bags.It is extremely smooth. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfHqzlCPgS8
If his gun shot 1/2 MOA at 100 yards he would throw the barrel away
If you lived closer we could pull your gun down one piece at a time and you could see the affect each piece has on the final accuracy of your gun.
In your example the ammo needs to be looked at as well.
You don't need great bullets or sorted bullets for 1/2 MOA at 100 yards but good bullets help get rid of flyers.You mentioned a powder charge but didn't mention if this was yourt most accurate charge or one posted by other shooters?
Your scope is monumental in shooting small groups at 100 yards.With the higher magnification scopes you aim smaller and more consistently than you do with a 3x9 with a heavy duplex reticle.
You also need a trigger light enough so your not jerking the gun around trying to make it fire.I have never seen a benchrest rifle with more than 6 ounces of trigger pull weight.
You also mentioned the gun shot better off of a bipod than it did off of bags.I have seen shooters resting there barrel on the front bag instead of there stock and this ruins any chance at all of shooting a small group.You also need to remove all of your sling swivels so they don't grab your front or rear bag.
I own several 700 5R's and PSS's but no rifle like yours.I would imagine the stock is very flimsy so moving the front bag rearward toward the action will usually aid accuracy not hurt it.
I am sure Postal knows more about accuracy than every poster here so he can critique my post and point out any errors and get you shooting small.Last edited by LynnJr; 09-02-2013, 9:13 PM.Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
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