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  • Spyder
    CGN Contributor
    • Mar 2008
    • 17225

    Originally posted by bigbossman
    Interesting - I have never seen a Winchester 94 0r 92 that had the caliber roll stamp at 6 o'clock under the wood. I'm going to go over the winchestercollectors.org site and ask about that.
    Here ya go!

    I haven't gotten in to doing any real research on some of these yet, I've been putting a lot of it off for years. But it's on the list of stuff to figure out around deer and elk season this year.
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    • BOBGBA
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2010
      • 2399

      Originally posted by bergmen
      Wouldn't that be an 1895?

      Dan
      Dan, thanks. You are most correct, sir.
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      • Spyder
        CGN Contributor
        • Mar 2008
        • 17225

        Originally posted by golfish

        What do you think the date is on the Spencer?

        Thanks for sharing
        According to the research of others...

        a Spencer Carbine with the serial # 37786 was issued to Company I, 3rd Michigan Volunteer Cavalry in June of 1865.

        a Spencer Carbine with the serial # 37793 was issued to Company E, 3rd New Jersey Volunteer Cavalry in 1865 (no day or month listed)

        a Spencer Carbine with the serial # 37766 was issued to Company L, 2nd New York Volunteer Cavalry in March, 1865

        And mine is within a few digits of one of the above.



        I've also got a Sharps and Hankins 1862 that's a funny one that I haven't figured out how to make ammo for. It's some sort of 56 caliber rimfire (originally), but there's little info out there and some say it takes the same ammo as a 56-56 spencer. But this one is a center fire smooth bore, but NOT a shotgun conversion (which some of them were back then). A couple years ago I found reference to some factory converted smoothbore centerfire versions of it that there were very few made, but then I didn't save the location of the info and lost track of it and haven't found it since.

        I frequently consider selling that one, as I have too dang many projects to work on already, but really old stuff that's still in great condition is cool as heck.
        Last edited by Spyder; 08-19-2022, 1:50 PM.

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        • 200Apples
          -DVC- Mojave Lever Crew
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2011
          • 7217

          Between bigbossman, Spyder, Randall R. and a few others whose collections escape me there are some wicked neat 19th Century Marlin and Winchester in here.




          Originally posted by BOBGBA
          Finally got around to taking some pictures of the Marlin 1895SS, 22" barrel 45-70 made in '97.

          [ATTACH]1110146[/ATTACH]

          That wood looks like the wood on our '94FGs.

          If the 22" barrel bothers you (even though your '95SS is a near-perfect Marlin proportion), see if Randall R. might be willing to shorten that barrel to 18.5 or even 20"... i.e. my 1895GS wears an 18.5" barrel and a mag length like yours, there.
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          • bigbossman
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2012
            • 11247

            Originally posted by Spyder
            Here ya go!

            I haven't gotten in to doing any real research on some of these yet, I've been putting a lot of it off for years. But it's on the list of stuff to figure out around deer and elk season this year.
            Ahh - OK. I was envisioning the roll mark that should be present on the barrel shank. Like so:







            Last edited by bigbossman; 08-19-2022, 2:21 PM.
            Always looking for vintage Winchester and Marlin lever action rifles. Looking to sell? Know of one for sale? Drop me a line!

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            • Spyder
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2008
              • 17225

              Originally posted by bigbossman
              Ahh - OK. I was envisioning the roll mark that should be present on the barrel shank. Like so:
              Yea, but those all show the caliber.

              This particular one ONLY has on the side:

              "Nickel Steel Barrel"
              "Especially for smokeless powder"

              And on the top in front of the rear sight:

              "Manufactured by the"
              "Winchester Repeating Arms Co. New Haven Conn USA"

              The 255 Dean Marlin is similar, the only caliber designation is "25 WCF" and you have to remove the handguard to see it at the bottom of the barrel.

              Weird. I think.

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              • BOBGBA
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Sep 2010
                • 2399

                Originally posted by 200Apples
                ...If the 22" barrel bothers you (even though your '95SS is a near-perfect Marlin proportion), see if Randall R. might be willing to shorten that barrel to 18.5 or even 20"... i.e. my 1895GS wears an 18.5" barrel and a mag length like yours, there.
                The thought having Randall shorten the barrel had crossed my mind, but I haven't put much thought into it.
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                • bigbossman
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 11247

                  Yeah - Winchester did the crudely stamped caliber info at 6 o'clock (as you've shown in your pic). What is odd to me is that it does not have a caliber designation roll mark up top on the barrel shank where you can see it. That's just weird, unless it was polished off during a re-blue - but that doesn't seem to be the case. Winchester roll marked the caliber on top until about 1907, then moved it to the side.

                  Your .255 Dean is only the second one I know of. My friend Brian bought a Marlin 25-20 at auction, only to find the first fired case blown out. It is a .255 Dean as well. I took a #8 7/8" bolt to a machinist friend, along with some fire-formed cases, and he was able to make a die for Brian to reload with. Not as good as the steel they use for real dies, but for as little as he shoots it it works out just fine.

                  Originally posted by Spyder
                  Yea, but those all show the caliber.

                  This particular one ONLY has on the side:

                  "Nickel Steel Barrel"
                  "Especially for smokeless powder"

                  And on the top in front of the rear sight:

                  "Manufactured by the"
                  "Winchester Repeating Arms Co. New Haven Conn USA"

                  The 255 Dean Marlin is similar, the only caliber designation is "25 WCF" and you have to remove the handguard to see it at the bottom of the barrel.

                  Weird. I think.
                  Last edited by bigbossman; 08-19-2022, 6:28 PM.
                  Always looking for vintage Winchester and Marlin lever action rifles. Looking to sell? Know of one for sale? Drop me a line!

                  "Give a conservative a pile of bricks and you get a beautiful city. Give a leftist a city and you get a pile of bricks."

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                  • Spyder
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 17225

                    Ha! Dejan vu.

                    You gave me your buddies contact info and he said he could make me one as well. Then I moved, forgot, and didn't follow up with him. Woops. 😆

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                    • Killer Bee
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 2199

                      not a lever or even a single action revolver but hey, it's been 5 days since anyone posted here so

                      I absolutely love the '63 Belgian Browning Nomad .22 I picked up a little over 5 years ago..

                      it is hands down to absolute smoothest, lightest charging .22 auto I have ever fired - buttery!

                      featured here --> https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1751458

                      sooo, in keeping with my obsession for 1971 I just had to buy another one, I mean they don't show up in my year very often..

                      tried swooping in last minute but woke up another bidder so I hit the instant win button

                      Browning Nomad pistol in .22lr made 1971 C&R



                      even the same barrel length and now I'll have 3 magazines!

                      only differences I see are the front sight and address markings are different but both made in Belgium

                      I started out with nothing - and I still have most of it

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                      • golfish
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 10123

                        I have a Browning Conture model. It's crazy accurate....

                        I understand your gun is in a different league..thanks for sharing
                        It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                        Happiness is a warm gun.

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                        • Calif Hunter
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 3319

                          Very nice Nomads. I have a High Standard Sportking with 4" and (I think) 6 3/4" barrel. The shorter barrel is usually on the gun. My Dad bought it for my Mom in 1955. An absolutely fantastic trigger and very accurate. It looks similar to the Nomad except for the sights and mine had a take-down/barrel removal latch in front of the trigger guard. I wish I could find extra magazines - the ones made by Triple K are junk.

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                          • Spyder
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 17225

                            Very cool old Marlin here. A bit high priced for a gamble on caliber, but...

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                            • BOBGBA
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 2399

                              Originally posted by Spyder
                              Very cool old Marlin here. A bit high priced for a gamble on caliber, but...

                              https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search...Sellers=392582
                              Hey Spyder,

                              I don't see anything that's Marlin in that search. There's Mauser stuff,,,,
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                              • Spyder
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 17225

                                Sometimes I'm a little slow.

                                Not only was the link wrong, but it ain't a Marlin.



                                I've been doing too much research and looking this afternoon!

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